I actually found this history of the Orange Julius drink and fast food chain interesting. You might not but I did — and I don't think I've ever even had an Orange Julius…
A Comic-Con Tale from 2003 – Part 1
While I'm at Comic-Con this week, I may not have time to post much on this blog (click here to see why) but I don't want this page to look abandoned. Therefore, I "wrote ahead" a long story about something that happened at Comic-Con in 2003 and I'll be serializing it here over the days I'll be down there doing this year's con and perhaps collecting tales of equal interest.
This occurred on Saturday, July 19 of that year in Room 6A at Comic-Con International. In a blog post here shortly after, I gave this account of the panel I hosted there that day…
At 3:00, I ran across the hall to moderate a gathering of three legends of science fiction: Forrest J Ackerman, a still-feisty Julie Schwartz…and the incomparable Ray Bradbury. Ray is still confined to a wheelchair due to one or more strokes but from the waist-up, he's still Ray "The Martian Chronicles" Bradbury. I took the three of them through the saga of their three-way friendship: In the thirties, the L.A.-based Ackerman and the New York-based Schwartz struck up a correspondence which led to Ackerman contributing to The Time-Traveller, a small-circulation mimeographed publication which Schwartz produced in 1932 with his friend, Mort Weisinger. It was the first science fiction fanzine ever. Ackerman also participated in a small s-f fan club in Los Angeles, which is where he met Bradbury. Later, when Ray travelled to New York (via a gruesome Greyhound bus) for his first science-fiction convention, it was because Forry had loaned him ninety dollars, which he later paid back by selling The Los Angeles Times on street corners.
It was at that convention that Bradbury met Schwartz who had become an agent for s-f writers. Two years later, Julie sold a story of Ray's — the first one ever to be purchased by an editor. As it happened, Schwartz was planning a trip to Los Angeles anyway, so he decided to deliver the good news and payment in person. He drove to L.A. and his first night there, hooked up with a friend and went out to get some dinner. By coincidence, the restaurant was across the street from where Bradbury was hawking newspapers. Schwartz recognized his client…and that's how Ray Bradbury found out he'd become a professional writer. Julie walked up and handed him a check for $35, less the 10% commission.
Bradbury spoke eloquently and passionately about a range of subjects, including the space program's shameful (to him) neglect of Mars. He's just finished an article for Playboy on the subject, so those of you who buy Playboy for the articles can find out his thoughts on the topic. He also spoke with even greater passion to those in the audience who aspire to write, urging them to follow their own muses and to not listen to "any damned fool" who tells them how and what they should write. It was a short but wonderful hour and I doubt anyone who was present will ever forget it.
That's how I wrote the story back then and every word of it was true. But it wasn't the whole story about that panel. If you want to read the whole story, stop by here tomorrow. And the day after that and the day after that and the day after that and the day after that and the day after that and the day after that and the day after that and as I'm writing this now, I'm not sure how many days it's going to run.
Another Day, Another Panel Addition…
Comic-Con International starts tonight and I've added one more stop in my relentless campaign to have more panels than Steve Harvey has TV programs. I will now be appearing on this panel…
Thursday, July 24 – 4 PM to 5 PM in Room 4
JACK KIRBY'S FOURTH WORLD
Rand Hoppe (Kirby Museum director), Tom Kraft (Kirby Museum president), Bruce Simon (underground cartoonist), Mark Badger (comic artist and educator), and Tracy Kirby (Jack Kirby's granddaughter) discuss the themes of Kirby's Fourth World and how they reflect on his work before (Fantastic Four and Thor) and after (Eternals and 2001).
Those of you tracking me the way the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration tracks whale migrations may note that this puts me on two panels in the same hour — to which I reply, "So?" I've done this before. In fact, I did it one year with two simultaneous panels when I was the moderator of both of them. Fortunately, they were directly across the hall from each other.
Here — and this'll be the last time I post this — is what I believe is my full schedule unless I go out to the sidewalk and do an interview with that guy who's usually there with the yellow sign telling us Jesus will be back any day now and this is our last chance to repent. We've been getting those last chances for at least the past fifteen Comic-Cons and I keep thinking Jesus keeps getting shut out of the con because he can't score a badge each year. Anyway, here's this…
This morning on Facebook, I saw a rant from someone about how Comic-Con is not a Comic-Con because there's nothing there about comic books. This complaint usually translates to there being nothing at Comic-Con about the specific comic books that the complainer favors. But just by way of rebuttal…
This year, I'm hosting or appearing on three panels about the works of Jack Kirby. I think those are about comic books. I'm doing panels in which I interview long-time comic book letterer Todd Klein, long-time comic book writer Don Glut and there's another one with Frank Miller, who's among the most important writer-artists of the last few decades. Also, long-time comic book writer Mark Waid and I will be doing a panel where we answer questions about how the comic book world operates or did in the past. I have a panel about a comic book I work on called Groo the Wanderer and another panel about Walt Kelly's Pogo, which was a comic book and a comic strip. So was Charles Schulz's Peanuts and I'm on a panel about that, too.
I'm on a panel about Bill Finger, whose involvement in comic book history included co-creating (arguably) the most popular comic book character ever and that wasn't all he did. I'm hosting a panel in which comic book artists discuss how they design covers for comic books and I'm playing quizmaster on a game show (sorta) in which cartoonists, some of whom draw comic books, compete to draw funny things in a hurry. I'm speaking at a memorial for the late writer of comic books, Peter David, and I'm presenting awards at a ceremony that is all about honoring the best work in comic books.
And that's just me. As I scan the full schedule, I see plenty of programming items about comic books…and yes, there are other things there. Three of my panels are about animation, which is not that far off the topic of comics.

But we now live in a world where a lot of related fields — comics, movies, cartoons, videogames and others, are becoming not only more closely related but are all merging almost seamlessly into one another. The major publishers of comic books are no longer comic book companies. They're multi-media companies that dabble in all those fields and market the properties they control in every possible venue. Superman and Spider-Man are no longer comic book characters. That just happens to be the medium in which they first appeared and a decreasing number of people know or care.
This is the fifty-fourth one of these summer gatherings in San Diego — and I know because it's also my fifty-fourth. They were never exclusively about comic books or even comic books and comic strips. You have no idea how much I'd love it if these get-togethers were still mostly about the men (and occasional women) who created the comic books I read in my youth but I can't seem to get them on any of my panels anymore. Maybe if I did them with a ouija board.
For good or bad, Comic-cons — all of them, not just the one that starts tonight in S.D. — are mainly about what comics are today. And comics today are not just things with drawings and word balloons printed on paper. The definition has expanded considerably and you can accept it and then seek out the parts of the convention that interest you or you can…well, you understand the alternative. One reason I do all these panels is to make sure than for most of the con, there's not only something that interests me but that I'm guaranteed a good seat for it.
Today's Video Link
So far, we haven't seen any official statement from David Letterman about the termination of The Late Show for alleged "financial reasons." I think though that we can all guess what he will say if and when he does say something. It also wouldn't surprise me to see him say it with a surprise cameo on that program soon. I'll bet they've invited him.
Or maybe Dave's statement is this just-released video of times on his Late Show when he ridiculed the folks at the network. He slammed NBC a lot when he was there too, and that probably was one of the lesser reasons — nowhere near as significant as others — that he did not get The Tonight Show after Mr. Carson decamped.
An exec with NBC years ago told me he thought that when Dave insulted his employers there, he was right about two-thirds of the time and dead wrong the other third. But he also said that calling his bosses pinheads and incompetents was one of the reasons — again, nowhere as significant as others — that Dave was as popular as he was. Most people hate their bosses and they love it when someone insults his (on national television, no less) and gets away with it…
Today's Audio Link
Hey, do you love the Marx Brothers? Of course you do. How could anyone not love the Marx Brothers? Well, here's a recent radio show that spent ninety minutes talking about Groucho, Harpo, Chico and even at times, Zeppo. Heck, there's even info in there about Gummo, courtesy of his grandson, who's among the guests. Several other members of the Marx family are interviewed along with some of my pals including Steve Stoliar and Frank Ferrante. If the little player I've embedded below doesn't work, try this link.
Today's Video Link
In case you didn't see Stephen Colbert last night…
He may be going down but he's going down swinging. It oughta be an amazing ten months — if they keep him on the air that long. Wonder what would happen if his ratings went way, way up because of so many people rallying to his cause. Would it still be a "financial decision" to take him off the air? Would it be a "financial decision" to take him off the air if someone among the new — or even the old owners if the merger somehow doesn't go through — just got pissed at what he was saying on his show?
In this video, watch for Anderson Cooper, Andy Cohen, Seth Meyers, Jimmy Fallon, Jon Stewart, John Oliver, Adam Sandler, Christopher McDonald and Triumph the Insult Comic Dog — all of whom, I'm guessing, dropped by The Ed Sullivan Theater briefly in the last day or so to tape quick, supportive cameos, probably all when Colbert's audience was not present. The show probably grabbed staff members or someone to surround the cameo guest stars for audience shots. I have a feeling Colbert and his crew are going to do a lot more things like this…
My Jack LaLanne Story
Two or three people lately have written to ask me to tell my Jack LaLanne story — the one about my brief (one punch) round of fisticuffs with the man who deserves most of the credit for inventing exercise programs on TV. I don't know why these folks, if they wanted to read it again, couldn't type "Jack LaLanne" into the search engine of this blog but it's been a while so here is that story…
This took place at the Musso-Frank Grill, a venerable restaurant up on Hollywood Boulevard that was founded in 1919…when Jack LaLanne was five years old, let's note. One evening, I was dining there with my friend Carolyn Kelly and our pals Marv Wolfman and Paul Dini. We were in one booth, Jack LaLanne and some folks were in the booth next to us and we shared a common waiter.
We were perusing our menus and I think it was Paul who asked the waiter what Mr. LaLanne was having. The waiter replied, "The sanddabs. Mr. LaLanne always comes in on Thursday evenings and has the sanddabs. He just loves our sanddabs."
We were still perusing about two minutes later when Mr. LaLanne and his party got up to leave. Jack would have been around 86 but you could tell he was in good shape. He had on one of those body suits with short sleeves, and then you can't tell where the shirt ends and the pants begin. I think this was the first time I ever realized how short he was…about 5'6", I'd guess.
He paused to slip the waiter a tip, handshake-style, then he turned to us, still sitting there with our menus up. He announced, "Whatever you order, you'll love it. Everything here is great!"
I was sitting on the end, right next to him. Just to make trouble, I said, "Yeah, the waiter told us we should try anything except the sanddabs. The Board of Health just made them stop selling them due to some sort of pollution."
Jack LaLanne did a "take" that would have been considered overacting on The Benny Hill Show. A look of horror struck him…and I think he would have run for the men's room and induced vomiting if he hadn't seen us all laughing and realized he'd been had. And what did he do in response?
He hit me.
I have witnesses. Jack LaLanne swung and punched me right in the shoulder, laughing as he did. It didn't really hurt, although it probably hurt a little more than it would have from any other man his age. I can't say for sure. Apart from this one time, I've never been struck by an 86-year-old bodybuilder.
Anyway, that's the story and the point of it, I guess, is that I'm a smartass and Jack LaLanne was a good sport. I only regret that I didn't get to tell him how much I respected his work and all that he did to make fitness fashionable. But then he probably would have figured I was just complimenting him so he wouldn't keep hitting me.
Today's Video Link
In 1983, Johnny Carson did a two-hour special on NBC to celebrate his 21st year as host of The Tonight Show. To promote the special, he sat for an interview with Bryan Gumbel that was serialized across several days of The Today Show…
More 2 Do at CCI
Those of you who were shocked that I was appearing on and/or hosting seventeen panels at Comic-Con can be further shocked. I'm now appearing on and/or hosting nineteen. I have joined this one…
Saturday, July 26 – 10 AM to 11 AM in Room 4
THE MANY HANDS OF BILL FINGER
Before Gotham had shadows, writer Bill Finger cast them. Comics scholar Dr. Alex Grand (Understanding Superhero Comic Books) moderates a lively conversation with Athena Finger (Bill's granddaughter and advocate), historian Bill Field (Field of Comics), playwright/filmmaker Lenny Schwartz (Bill Finger: Rise of the Bat) and Mark Evanier (administrator of the Bill Finger Award). Together they trace Finger's unseen influence across comics, television, and film and show why crediting Batman's co-creator still matters to today's storytellers and fans.
And I've also agreed to appear on another one but I'm going to wait and let its panel moderator announce my participation. Yes, I am well aware of how stupid this is of me.
This Weekend
That's Dr. Z — "Z" as in "Zaius" — the talk show host no one dares cancel. If you're going to be in San Diego this Saturday night, as I expect some of you will be, you can catch Dr. Zaius doing his brilliant, improvised, different-every-time show at The American Comedy Company over on Sixth Avenue in the Gaslamp Quarter. There are two shows — one at 7:30 PM and one at 9:30 PM — and you can get tickets at this link.
While you're over on that site, you might notice that on Thursday and Friday evenings, the American Comedy Company is featuring three of the best stand-up comedians working today — Natasha Leggero, Moshe Kasher and Dana Gould. There are rumors that Dana Gould has something to do with Dr. Z and I may ask him about this connection when he appears on my Cartoon Voices I panel at Comic-Con, which takes place Saturday afternoon at 1 PM in Room 6BCF. And then again, I may not. Wouldn't want to get on the bad side of Dr. Z.
More Colbert Discussion
My pal Paul Harris, with whom I have spent many an hour discussing late night television, has some thoughts about what Stephen Colbert will do upon completing the next ten months of The Late Show. Mr. Colbert may be asking himself that very question at this very minute.
One thing of which I'm fairly certain is that the answer is, within reason, "Whatever he wants to do." He may not be able to do it at a broadcast network like CBS but he will not want for opportunities. He's widely respected, he has a huge following and he won't have his options limited because people will say his last show failed. I could certainly imagine him migrating to HBO (or some network that wants to be HBO) and doing some show that might not fit the template of what he's done the last decade.
A few online folks have floated the idea that he may want to get into politics, perhaps running next year to take Lindsey Graham's seat in the U.S. Senate representing South Carolina. What an amazing battle that could be…but I'm not going to even imagine it's possible until such time as Colbert indicates any interest whatsoever in that line of work.
My guess would be he's in no hurry to decide on his next line o' work and may be waiting to see what happens with The Daily Show and Jon Stewart. There seems to be some concern that whatever factors led CBS to get out of late night programming could force some changes there…and elsewhere. Colbert's decision about where to go and what to do will probably have a lot to do with recognizing that the next niche he'll carve out for himself could be in a very different television industry…and maybe not a niche.
Donald Trump and the political turmoil in this country only have so much to do with those changes. The way The Internet has become such a part of our lives and how we're entertained and/or informed and/or make our purchasing decisions has smashed to pieces all the old business models of television. It's now a world of podcasts and YouTubers and Tik-Tok and streaming-on-demand and even if tomorrow you got an hour show on CBS, NBC or ABC each week, that might still be only part of the deal. Your success would rely a lot on clicks and online exposure and how your show appealed to those whose lives are irrevocably intertwined with their cell phones and home computers.
Colbert understands this. His whole time on The Late Show, he's had one foot in that world, almost like treating that audience as his primary market and the people who have TV sets that are only TV sets to them as secondary. He also has good management, that audience that will follow him just about anywhere and plenty of time to decide where he wants to go and what he wants to be. I'm quite fascinated to see what he decides. Quite fascinated.
Recommended Reading
Here's a pretty good article about the Stephen Colbert matter by Jason Zinoman. One aspect of all this that intrigues me is the suggestion, hinted at in this article and stated outright in others I've read, that the decline in audience for late night shows is because they've gotten too political.
I'm curious — and there may never be a real answer to this — how many viewers flock to Colbert's show and others because of the politics and how many are driven away. We can all understand how someone who thinks Donald Trump is Jesus Christ with too much bronzer might not want to watch monologues that bash him and studio audiences cheering the bashing. Okay…but I know some folks who hate Trump but don't want to be reminded of him just before bedtime.
I'll admit there have been times lately when I've watched Colbert and thought, "Is there anything else in the world you guys have a joke about?" There's probably no way to ever know how many viewers come and go because of this but I'd at least like to know what Mr. Colbert's educated guesses are about it.
Today's Bonus Video Link
Earlier today, I posted this video by longtime Las Vegas video blogger Steven Campbell about why prices are up there, business is down and you can have a very expensive, terrible time in what used to be a wonderful place to be a tourist. If you want to know more about the deterioration of the city, here's a video by another longtime video blogger, Jason Orth. He covers a lot of things that Steven didn't bring up…
I Queue
And if you're going to Comic-Con and will have to line up for the kind of things that require lining-up, here's a handy guide as to where you should line up for for the kind of things that require lining-up.