Walker Edmiston, R.I.P.

This is a tough one for me. Walker Edmiston, a wonderful actor, cartoon voice, puppeteer and kids' show host, died on February 15. I just found out this afternoon.

If you look back, you'll see me talking about him in this post of the day before. At the time I wrote it, I didn't know he was hospitalized and not expected to survive for long.

I first knew of Walker as a kids' show host here in Los Angeles. He'd been a performer on the original Time for Beany puppet show. In fact, for a while after Daws Butler left, he was Beany. He'd done other puppet shows as well, including The Walker Edmiston Show, which he hosted on KTLA here in town. The still below is of him on that program, posing with his main puppets. Left to right, they were R. Crag Ravenswood, Calley the Cat, Barky the Dog and Kingsley the Lion. The show, which he ad-libbed every day, was as hip and funny as anything ever done for children or even most adults. You'll have to take my word for that because few episodes (if any) survive…but I would stack it up against the best of Soupy Sales and Chuck McCann. It was that good.

It was also a small part of Walker's career. He did hundreds of movies, hundreds of cartoons, hundreds of on-camera appearances, thousands of commercials. He was part of Red Skelton's stock company on his TV show. He was a recurring character (an expert in replicating voices) on Mission: Impossible. He did the voices of many creatures and aliens on the original Star Trek.

I first worked with Walker on shows for Sid and Marty Krofft. He was one of their main voice people. On H.R. Pufnstuf, he did the voices of all the male characters who weren't done by Lennie Weinrib. On Sigmund and the Sea Monsters, he was Sigmund and many of the other creatures. On The Land of the Lost, he was Enik the Sleestak and dozens of others.

You heard him constantly without knowing it was him. He did dozens and dozens of movies where they brought him in to imitate and redub another actor. For example, he looped Orson Welles in Start the Revolution Without Me. Once, when one of Mel Brooks's movies was being released, the studio wanted Mel to do the radio commercials but Mel was out of town so Walker went in and did an imitation, and everyone thought it was Mel Brooks. He was the announcer for years for the Stater Brothers market chain in Southern California. He was several of the Keebler Elves.

He did cartoons — Top Cat, Spider-Man, Plastic Man, The Flintstones, The Transformers and many more. Walker took over the role of Ludwig Von Drake after Paul Frees retired from it…and being an ethical person, he only agreed to take it on after talking to Paul and getting his blessing.

He was also — and I don't want this to get lost among a list of credits — a very dear, lovely man.

This is not a formal obit. I'm helping the L.A. Times assemble one and I'll link to it when it's up, probably next week. This is also certainly not an overview of his entire career because I wouldn't know where to start. These are just some quick thoughts about a fine actor and fine gentleman…and someone I already miss. I'll post more details of his extraordinary life here shortly.

Walker

This will probably not matter to you anywhere near as much as it matters to me but this is my blog so up it goes…

One of my all-time favorite performers was a gent named Walker Edmiston who in his day, probably worked as much as any actor who ever lived. He did a fair amount of voiceover work but rarely on famous characters. If he'd focused on just that, I honestly believe we'd now mention his name in the same breath as Paul Frees, Don Messick or a dozen other top thespians of that field. He was that good.

But he also did an awful lot of straight announcing work and he also did a lot of on-camera acting and he frequently dubbed other actors' voices for film and television. He was a master of the "voice match," filling in for other actors who for some reason were unavailable to dub their own voices into scenes that required audio replacement. Here's some of what I wrote here when he passed away in 2007…

You heard him constantly without knowing it was him. He did dozens and dozens of movies where they brought him in to imitate and redub another actor. For example, he looped Orson Welles in Start the Revolution Without Me. Once, when one of Mel Brooks's movies was being released, the studio wanted Mel to do the radio commercials but Mel was out of town so Walker went in and did an imitation, and everyone thought it was Mel Brooks. He was the announcer for years for the Stater Brothers market chain in Southern California. He was several of the Keebler Elves.

He did cartoons — Top Cat, Spider-Man, Plastic Man, The Flintstones, The Transformers and many more. Walker took over the role of Ludwig Von Drake after Paul Frees retired from it…and being an ethical person, he only agreed to take it on after talking to Paul and getting his blessing.

I knew Walker, though not as well as I would have liked. One of the many interesting things about him to me is that he did not care at all about stardom. There are actors who care about nothing but…but Walker was fine with anonymous jobs — which is what most dubbing and announcing is. He just wanted to work…and work, he did. His IMDB page lists 158 credits and I'd guess that's like 15% of everything he did.

There was only one time I know of when he really tried pushing his name to the public. In the early sixties, he was all over local Los Angeles television kid shows. He and his puppets (he made and operated puppets) guested on the shows of every local kids show host and for a period — I'm guessing 26 weeks or so — he did a program called The Walker Edmiston Show on KTLA, Channel 5. It was one of those shows done live and largely ad-libbed and the entire cast consisted of Walker and his puppets.

I have not seen an episode of this show since 1962 or 1963 at best. It was widely believed that all the episodes were lost forever but I'm on the trail of one episode that apparently survived. Anyway, in what follows, keep in mind that I have not seen an episode at least since the Kennedy Assassination.

I remember it as brilliantly funny and clever. Walker had various characters who took turns hosting it but the most frequent was a buzzard (I guess) named R. Crag Ravenswood who sounded a lot like Hans Conried. That's Ravenswood with Walker in the photo above. Sometimes, he'd be spelled by Kingsley the Lion, Barky the Dog or one of the others.

Okay now. In 1976, I was hired as a writer on The Krofft Superstar Hour, a Saturday morning series for NBC starring the Bay City Rollers and a plethora of characters from previous shows produced by Sid and Marty Krofft. Walker Edmiston had voiced many of those characters like Sigmund the Sea Monster and Dr. Blinky and most of the supporting cast of H.R. Pufnstuf so he was engaged to play those roles again. He also voiced the Slee Staks on the Krofft's series, Land of the Lost, and when I found out we had the Slee Stak costumes in the Krofft warehouse, plus we had the voice, I began writing them into the show.

Walker was never in any of these costumes, by the way. Other actors were and Walker — and on this show, Lennie Weinrib — did the voices live from a booth on the stage. On Krofft shows, the voices were almost never added later, which was a bit more expensive but Sid and Marty had learned it made for better synchronicity between character and voice.

The first day Walker was on the set, I walked up and introduced myself. Then I told him how much I'd loved that show he'd done on Channel 5. He said, "You can't possibly remember that show." I said I did…and to prove it, I sang as much of the theme song as they used on the show each week.

He was stunned. He said, "You must have gotten a copy of the record we issued of it. You couldn't have remembered it all this time." I told him I didn't know there even was a record. I had indeed had that song running through my head for well over a decade. Walker promised to dig through his garage and find me a copy of the record but he never got around to it.

If I had written this article two months ago, I would have told you (truthfully!) that though I had not seen even a second of that show for over half a century, I still remembered the part of that theme song they used on that show. But about two months ago, my pal Stu Shostak came up with a ten second video clip of the opening of The Walker Edmiston Show. So I got to hear a bit of it again.

And just within the last week, lo and behold, I found that someone — thank you, whoever did this — had a copy of the record and had put it up on YouTube. That not only gave me a chance to once more hear the first part which they'd used on the show but to hear the entire theme song which I'd never heard before and it is, of course, embedded below. That's Walker doing the vocal as three of his many characters — Kingsley, Barky and Ravenswood. It's a real catchy tune and if it runs around in your head as long as it's been in mine, you'll never get rid of it. Proceed with caution…

Walker

The L.A. Times has a nice, formal obituary for our friend, Walker Edmiston.

Images I Found on My Computer #3

Click on the pic to make it grow.

This is for folks around my age who grew up in Los Angeles. It's a group shot of Los Angeles kid show hosts from when I was ten, give or take a few years. If you click to make the photo bigger, you'll see I've added their names. Some additional info…

Walker Edmiston (B) was probably my favorite, though he rarely appeared on camera. Usually, you saw one or more of his puppets, especially R. Crag Ravenswood, who is to the right to Engineer Bill. You (or I) never saw the face of Vance Colvig (E) because it was hidden behind Bozo makeup that his father had once worn when he was the first Bozo the Clown. Jimmy Weldon (F) passed away recently. Jimmy, seen here with his little buddy, Webster Webfoot, was the last surviving member of this fraternity…and the job of Los Angeles kid show host.

This was taken on the set of an afternoon movie show which Tom Hatten (G) hosted on KTLA years after he stopped hosting his own kid's show running Popeye cartoons on that station. The major omission for me in this gathering is Charles Runyon, who played Chucko the Birthday Clown on KABC for many years. By the time this group was assembled, he'd moved to Oregon. If you feel like using the Search function on this blog, you can read more about most of these men. When I was a kid, they were TV stars just as much as anyone on the networks.

Today's Video Link

If you're a fan of Red Skelton — and I kinda/sorta was and am — you might want to know that the Red Skelton Museum has uploaded an awful lot of his work to YouTube including many, many episodes of his weekly hour show that ran on CBS from 1953 to 1970. It then switched to a rather sad half-hour on NBC for its final year. But I may be more fascinated by the making of the show and Red's (shall we say?) "eccentricities" than I am by the actual content of the programs.

As I wrote here, I used to run into Mr. Skelton a lot in Westwood Village when I was attending U.C.L.A. about the time his show ended. I would have liked to have talked to him about his work — and he did give me short, get-it-over-with answers to a few questions I managed to slip in. But mostly, he just wanted to tell me (or anyone around) dirty jokes. At least, they were dirty jokes in 1971. Today, they might get a soft "R" rating. At least around me and in a public place, he was a man who went through life making others and himself laugh constantly. I have never seen another human who was that insufferably happy while telling jokes.

You can read that old article of mine if you're of a mind to and if you do, you'll find that I went to see him do his show at CBS twice. Once was a taping with Marcel Marceau as his only guest for an all-pantomime hour. The other was a rehearsal where Red ignored the lines on the cue cards and just told more of his dirty jokes to amuse himself and an audience of his crew and various CBS employees from around the lot. He seemed to live for that rehearsal and the subsequent taping of the actual script, and I'll bet it was jarring for him when he didn't have all that in his life. Maybe he began compensating by telling dirty jokes to college kids in Westwood Village.

I picked out one hour to embed below here. They occasionally messed with the format but most episodes started and ended with a troupe of singers and dancers welcoming you and in the opening, they billboarded the guests. A pretty wide array of folks in show business were guests…and in the sketches, you might also see a lot of great comic actors like Lennie Weinrib, Burt Mustin, Chanin Hale, Joi Lansing, Milton Frome, Robert Easton or Joyce Jameson. Among the supporting players in this one are Walker Edmiston and Dave Sharpe. Dave was a pretty famous stuntman and if you see someone take a big fall or crash through a wall in a Red Skelton Hour of the sixties, it's probably Dave.

The main guest in this one (which aired 2/13/68) is Burl Ives, who plays in the main sketch opposite Red's Deadeye character. Red had a little repertoire of characters — Clem Kadiddlehopper, Freddie the Freeloader, The Mean Widdle Kid, etc. — and he'd play one of them a week. Ives also does a song as does the musical guest, Lulu. There's also Red's monologue near the top, a pantomime bit ("The Silent Spot") at the end and around the 30-minute mark, Red does some comic blackouts and there's one that calls for him to be hit in the face with a tomato. Whoever was throwing the tomato had lousy aim so they had to do it again and again…and the funny thing about the sketch is about how much Red seems to enjoy that they had to do it again and again.

I doubt you'll make it through the entire show but if you do, there are plenty more on YouTube where this one came from…

ASK me: Paul Frees

From Mark Bosselman…

I asked Leonard Maltin if he ever met Paul Frees on live Instagram/Facebook chat Sunday and he said no. Leonard mentioned your name and he said you haven't twirked with him either. Is this true and if it's not, do you have any Paul Frees stories that you can share?

Well, I'm not sure anyone ever met Paul Frees on live Instagram/Facebook chat on Sunday but I think I know what you're asking. I "met" Paul Frees on the phone for brief (very brief) conversations twice but never in person and never for very long.

I have always felt truly fortunate that I grew up on cartoons with voices by Mel Blanc, Daws Butler, June Foray, Don Messick, Stan Freberg, Bill Scott, Jimmy Weldon, Julie Bennett, Shepard Menken, Dick Beals, Gary Owens, Chuck McCann, Frank Buxton, Arnold Stang, Marvin Kaplan and a few others…and in my alleged adulthood, got to meet and work with Mel Blanc, Daws Butler, June Foray, Don Messick, Stan Freberg, Bill Scott, Jimmy Weldon, Julie Bennett, Shepard Menken, Dick Beals, Gary Owens, Chuck McCann, Frank Buxton, Arnold Stang, Marvin Kaplan and a few others. I'm sure everyone reading this can understand why that would be meaningful on several levels.

By the time I got into the animation business, Paul Frees had largely gotten out…and had totally gotten out of Los Angeles. He'd moved up to Tiburon, California, which is near San Francisco. He said the air there was much better for him and June told me that Paul had reached the stage in his life where he had an awful lot of money and not an awful lot of desire to work.

He did work once in a while. If you offered him enough money, he might (might!) agree to go to a studio somewhere near his home and record there. June told me that on rare occasions, someone would offer Paul so much loot that he'd fly down to Los Angeles to record something, record it and then fly right back. I recall her complaining once, "He was down here last week for three hours and he wouldn't even delay his flight home to have lunch with me."

One time when I was visiting Daws Butler (one of the nicest and most talented people I ever met), we got to talking about Paul and he spent a lot of time telling me how great Paul was. Before I left, the phone rang and it was Paul…and Daws put me on the line with him for a few minutes. Paul spent most of that time telling me how great Daws was.

Paul Frees

At the time, I was head writer for a program called The Krofft Superstar Hour which ran on NBC on Saturday mornings for not-very-long. We were taping shows and our cast included Lennie Weinrib and Walker Edmiston, who worked off-camera supplying the voices of many of the Krofft characters. Lennie and Walker were two more guys I knew from their voicework when I was younger, though both of them did more on-camera work than off. Walker, who I wrote about here and here and other places, had a great kids' show on local TV in Los Angeles for a time.

At the time, he was supplying the voice of Ludwig Von Drake for a series of educational filmstrips or recordings or something that some division of Disney was doing. Mr. Frees, of course, had originated the role of the eminent Professor Von Drake but he wasn't tempted by the scale fee that Disney was offering for these projects. Walker, who did a pretty fair imitation of Paul's voice as Ludwig, was the go-to second choice.

Most voice actors work under an unwritten Code of Honor not to imitate another voice actor while that person is alive and possibly available. Walker abided strenuously by that rule. So what would happen is that Disney would call and ask him if he could come in next Tuesday and record a few tracks for them and Walker would say — every single time — "I can but I have to check with Paul first."

Walker Edmiston

The guy at Disney would say, "Walker, you don't have to check with Paul. He's fine with you doing this for us. He's said yes the last twenty-three times you asked him." Which was true but Walker felt he still had to check with Paul. He'd call Paul and Paul would say "Fine" and Walker would thank him and go in and do what Disney needed him to do as Ludwig..

A week or two after my chat with Frees at Daws' home, Walker came into my office where we were doing The Krofft Superstar Hour. We were on a break from taping and he asked if he could use my phone to call Paul Frees up in Tiburon. I said, "Yes, if I can say hello to him." Walker called, got Paul's permission to talk like him and then put me on the speakerphone.

Paul remembered me from the call with Daws and in that second (again, brief) conversation, I asked him about doing his impression of Peter Lorre on a Spike Jones record. Paul told me how he'd do anything for Spike and how when he met Peter Lorre, Mr. Lorre said, "You sound more like me than I do" and they spent some time teaching each other how to sound more like Peter Lorre.

Paul, Spike and Peter

The story was told, of course, with Paul playing both roles. He played Paul Frees imitating Peter Lorre and he also played Peter Lorre talking the way he really talked…and he even played Peter Lorre trying to sound more like Paul Frees imitating Peter Lorre. It was one of the many "Boy, do I wish I'd had a tape recorder running" moments of my life.

The call ended soon after and that was my last-ever contact with Paul Frees, who passed away in 1986. Before he went back to work that day, Walker demonstrated for me how he occasionally did Peter Lorre and said that what he (and everyone else who imitated Peter Lorre) was doing was an imitation of Paul Frees imitating Peter Lorre. Walker did that in a lot of cartoons so somewhere out there, there's probably someone who thinks they do a great imitation of Peter Lorre but they're really doing an imitation of Walker Edmiston doing an imitation of Paul Frees doing an imitation of Peter Lorre.

Here is the Spike Jones record on which Paul Frees imitated Peter Lorre. Paul's part starts around a minute and a half into it but for the full effect, listen to the whole thing…

ASK me

Cartoon Credits

Every so often on animation forums, I see conversations that remind me to remind the animation community that credits on old TV cartoons are often inaccurate. In many cases, they were inaccurate when they first aired because the guy who made them up did a less-than-stellar job. (The name of Gary Owens was misspelled on the first season of Space Ghost, for example.)

Also, some artists and actors for various reasons asked that their names not be in the credits. Daws Butler, because he was so well-identified with his voicework for Hanna-Barbera, asked that his name not be on some of the shows he worked on for Jay Ward…and it's misspelled on others. I don't know the precise reason but Mel Blanc's name was not on several episodes of The Flintstones where it's clearly him doing Barney Rubble and others. Bill Scott was the voice of Bullwinkle, Mr. Peabody and Dudley Do-Right and others on the various shows that featured those characters and he wrote a lot of the scripts as well…but is only credited as a producer.

Also, on shows for Saturday morning, most studios including Hanna-Barbera, liked to make up one set of end credits for the entire season and use it (the same one) on every episode. They'd list all the writers, actors, artists (etc.) who'd worked on even one episode for that season as of the moment when those end credits were made up. That moment would be when the first episode had to air, which might be about the time Show #10 was being worked on.

So if they were doing, say, sixteen episodes that season, the names of folks who worked only on episodes #11-16 would not be included at all. And of course, an actor who did a small voice part on one of the first ten episodes would have the same credit as someone who did the lead character and had tons of dialogue in all sixteen.

Later on, when it became cheaper and easier to do end credits, most studios would make up the end credits individually for each episode. In some cases though, errors still occurred. And often when shows were syndicated, someone would start swapping around which cartoons appeared in which episodes without changing the end credits.

And sometimes, they just plain lost the end credits.

When the Hanna-Barbera series Top Cat was produced, it was a prime-time series and H-B remade the end credits each week to list the writers, artists and actors who worked on each particular episode. Those episodes were later rerun in syndication and on Saturday morning…and rerun and rerun and rerun. Eventually, the film prints wore out and there also came a day when they needed new transfers so the shows could look clean and perfect when released on home video or on the new, better-quality TV sets.

I'm a little unclear on the time sequence of all this and what was done for TV release and what was done for home video. My dear friend, the late Earl Kress, could have explained it all to me because he was deeply involved with a lot of the restorations. Earl spent a lot of time searching through film vaults that housed Hanna-Barbera's past, often spending days examining unlabeled and mislabeled cans. I'm pretty sure he was the one who found the original, lost-until-he-found-it opening from the first two seasons of The Flintstones with its original theme song.

I think (note italics) he was the one who found the negative to the closing of Top Cat but it was just the animation and music before the credits had been superimposed. As far as I know, prints with the credits in place have never been located. They had the episodes themselves but all they had of the credits sequence was what Earl found. What they then had to do was reconstruct the end credits.

They took the names off a print of one episode, had someone set them in a similar typeface and combined them with Earl's find to create one (1) end credits sequence which they tacked onto the new transfers of all 30 episodes.

Here's a frame grab from the credits for one episode as they all now exist. See where it says Kin Platt wrote the episode? Well, Mr. Platt wrote a few of them but he didn't write all of them even though his name is now on all of them and so listed in a couple of online episode guides. Same with Paul Sommer who is credited as "Story Editor."  He was that on some episodes, not all.

On the card with the voice credits, it lists Paul Frees since he guested on one of two episodes, one of which was the one from which they took those credits. Frees is credited on all 30 now and there are no voice credits for Daws Butler, Don Messick, Walker Edmiston, Bea Benaderet, Sally Jones and several other folks who were heard on various episodes of Top Cat.

H-B didn't even have cast lists so the actors were identified for the studio's records by folks like Earl and me who could listen to a show and (usually) identify who did which voice. But we couldn't identify the writers or various artists…so the same guys get those credits on every episode. A similar problem seems to have happened with some (not all) episodes of The Flintstones and The Jetsons.

That's about all I have to say about this. Like I said, this kind of thing is a problem with a lot of cartoon shows, especially those made for television in the early days. So watch out. I will probably have to post this again in a few years.

Today's Video Link

Actually, it's an audio link disguised as a video link. Yesterday here, I told you a lot about the late, great Walker Edmiston, voice guy and kid show host supreme, and I embedded the theme song from his short-lived kid show. Records have two sides so here he is as his character Barky the Dog singing, "I Dreamt I Saw Khruschev (In a Pink Cadillac)." I don't care about this song anywhere near as much as I cared about the flip side…

Tom Hatten, R.I.P.

It's sadly a three-obit day here at newsfromme.com. Let me tell you about Tom Hatten and why he mattered to me…a lot.

I'm the right age to have grown up (sort of) on local kid show hosts — folks on local TV stations like KTLA, KHJ, KTTV and KCOP who hosted shows seen just in my city…live people who talked to me. They'd play games and talk about things that were of interest to kids and, of course, they showed cartoons. The kid show hosts of my childhood — the ones I watched when my age was in single digits and maybe a year or two after — were "Skipper Frank" Herman, Chucko the Birthday Clown, "Engineer Bill" Stulla, "Sheriff John" Rovick, Jimmy Weldon (and his puppet Webster Webfoot), Walker Edmiston, Vance Colvig (our local Bozo the Clown), Chuck Jones the Magic Man…and Tom Hatten.

Tom Hatten hosted the Popeye cartoons on Channel 5 from 1956 (when I was four) until 1964 (I was twelve) and he did this every afternoon, five days a week. A former announcer and newsman at the station, he dressed like a sailor and did his show from a cheap set that looked like an old ship. He was an actor who often appeared in local theatrical productions but he was also something of a cartoonist and on almost every show, he'd draw Popeye or Olive Oyl or Wimpy and he often gave little cartooning lessons.

He worked at an easel with a piece of charcoal. I'd sit at home with a pad of paper and a pencil and try to duplicate what he did. I think it actually helped me that he wasn't an incredibly good cartoonist. I'm serious about this. If they'd had someone like Sergio Aragonés drawing for us, I'd have given up drawing then and there. But Mr. Hatten made it look humanly possible and what I was able to reproduce on my pad didn't look that much worse than what he did on his easel.

So I kept at it. I never learned to draw as well as I would have liked but the fact that I could do it at all, I owe largely to Tom Hatten.

He'd often do things he called "Squiggles." A squiggle was a quick doodle — some lines that didn't look like anything in particular. The idea was to incorporate those lines into a drawing that did look like something. He had kids my age on his program and sometimes, they'd do a squiggle on his pad on his easel and he'd turn it into something. And sometimes, he'd replicate the same squiggle on three pads on three easels and each kid would have to turn it into a drawing of something with a prize going to the best squiggler. (We occasionally do this in the "Quick Draw" game I host at comic book conventions…a direct lift from my childhood watching Tom Hatten.)

He would even talk about the history of Popeye and of Elzie Segar and the Fleischer Brothers whose studio made the best Popeye cartoons. My interest in the background of such enterprises probably started with his little lessons. In 1960, his show began featuring some of the newer (cheaper) Popeye cartoons that were made expressly for television and released that year. I recall Hatten announcing the new Popeye adventures he was showing and, with great diplomacy and tact, explaining why they weren't quite as wonderful as the made-for-movie-theaters classics he also had on his show.

Hatten left KTLA in 1964 to pursue more acting and he always seemed to be doing something. There was one episode of the original Hawaii Five-O in which he played a comic strip artist whose strip was inspiring a serial killer. In the seventies, he returned to KTLA and, dressed more like a TV host and less like a sailor, revived his Popeye show. He also did something called the Family Film Festival — a weekly show where he'd host family-friendly films and discuss their history, often with in-studio guests who'd been involved with that week's film. He frequently turned up elsewhere on KTLA and/or on KNX radio as an entertainment reporter.

It was a big deal for me that I got to meet Tom Hatten on several occasions and repeatedly thank him for what his show meant to me. He was a charming gentleman who was always turning up at local animation-themed events…and yes, I have a Popeye that he drew for me. He probably tossed it out long ago but at one point, he had a Popeye that I drew for him, just to show what a mediocre student I'd been. Of the names on the above list, Chuck Jones (the magician, not the animation director) and Jimmy Weldon are now the only ones still with us. Losing Tom Hatten today at the age of 92 really feels like losing a big chunk of my childhood.

I wonder if a kid of six today can possibly feel the connection to anyone on TV that I once felt for Skipper Frank, Sheriff John all those others…and Tom Hatten. If not, I feel bad for them.

Today's Video Link

Here's a vintage TV commercial…and a bit of a mystery. As you may know, Time for Beany was a wonderful puppet show that went on the air in Los Angeles in 1949. It was one of those rare kids' shows that adults loved just as much as the young'uns did. It aired live on TV in L.A. where it was done and later, kinescopes were syndicated to some other cities around the country.

For the first few years, the puppeteer-performers were the supremely-talented duo of Daws Butler and Stan Freberg. Daws played Beany and Cap'n Huffenpuff. Stan played Cecil and Dishonest John. Both played other supporting characters and every so often, one of them had to play the other's characters…which they could do because they were both great mimics.

Either late in 1952 or early in 1953, their contracts were up and both chose to leave, in part due to disputes with the show's owner and producer, Bob Clampett. There was some amount of bad blood there. They were replaced by Irv Shoemaker, Jim MacGeorge and Walker Edmiston. Shoemaker assumed Freberg's roles. MacGeorge played Cap'n Huffenpuff. Edmiston played Beany for a while, then left to do a new show Clampett had launched, whereupon MacGeorge began playing Beany. The show ended in either late 1954 or early 1955. You following all this? Fine.

In 1959, Clampett made a deal with Mattel Toys under which he would produce a new show with the characters for ABC, this time with animation instead of puppets. The show was originally Matty's Funday Funnies but later, when the cartoons made for it were rerun, it became known as Beany and Cecil. For this show, MacGeorge did the voices of Beany and the Cap'n, Shoemaker was Cecil and Dishonest John, and both did guest characters, as did some other actors.

Concurrent with the animated show, Mattel flooded the market with Beany and Cecil toys. Below is a commercial from back then promoting the talking Beany and Cecil dolls. That's the great Frank ("Yesssss?") Nelson doing the voiceover but who did the voices that came out of the Beany and Cecil dolls? Surprising answer: It was Daws Butler.

He was not the current voice of either character. He was not the voice of Cecil on the puppet show except for occasional emergencies. He was not even on speaking terms with Bob Clampett (although a few years later, I played peacemaker between them.) So why did Mattel hire Daws?

This was a mystery that bugged me since about 1962 when I noticed that the Beany toy sounded a little like Augie Doggie or Elroy Jetson and the Cecil toy sounded a little like Quick Draw McGraw. Daws, of course, was the voice of all those characters.

When I got to know him years later, it was one of the first questions I asked him: Why did they hire you for that? His answer: He didn't know. He told me he got a booking one day to record some lines for Mattel. He showed up at the studio and found out it was Beany and Cecil. "I thought Clampett would have nothing to do with me then," said he.

The best we could come up with, theory-wise, was that Mattel wanted to just pay one person to do both voices and they figured Daws was the most versatile of the guys who'd worked on either version of the show. (When I got to know Bob Clampett, I asked him. He didn't even know Daws had done it.)

So there's the mystery. Here's the commercial…

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Hey, did you see the new episode of American Masters on PBS? The one about Mel Brooks? Well, if you didn't, here it is…

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About halfway through, you'll see an ad for Young Frankenstein which sounds like it was narrated by Mel — and it may have been. But I'm not sure that's not Walker Edmiston. Walker, who alas is no longer with us, was a great voice actor who often came in and dubbed other performers. He did a lot of lines for Orson Welles in Start the Revolution Without Me, for instance. He did an uncanny Mel Brooks imitation. It was so good that in a recording session once with Mel's old compatriot, Howard Morris, I had Walker do it over the talkback and Howie thought it was Mel. Anyway, Walker did a series of radio promos for Young Frankenstein that had to be produced while Mel was out of the country. Everyone thought it was Mel but it was Walker…and I'm not sure that promo isn't Walker.

And speaking of Howie Morris: When you get to the scene from Get Smart with the Cone of Silence, that's Howie's voice on the intercom. He directed that episode, which was the pilot for the series.

Sheriff John, R.I.P.

Aww…Sheriff John died. Sheriff John Rovick was a fixture of Los Angeles television from 1952 (the year of my birth) until 1970. He occasionally had other shows but most of his run was a noontime program called Sheriff John's Lunch Brigade. I am unable to explain to you the longtime success of a kids' show aired at an hour when most kids should have been off at school…but someone was watching him.

For a year or two before I began school, that roster included me…and I'd check in with him on days when there was no school. He did not run great cartoons and the ones he had, he seemed to run several times a week. Here's one I specifically remember seeing often on his program…

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Others were filled with racist stereotypes and Nazis. A lot of Nazis. Mel Brooks has not put as many Nazis on screen as Sheriff John did before around 1962 or so. Somewhere around that date, perhaps inspired by other kid show hosts who were becoming socially or politically aware (or perhaps reacting to sponsors becoming concerned), the Good Sheriff demanded that his station clean up their library. I'm pretty sure, by the way, that Sheriff John's show was where I learned to draw a Swastika. I often sat in front of my cartoons with a drawing pad, racing to replicate things I saw on the screen and one day, I proudly showed my parents a whole page of Swastikas I had copied from wartime cartoons. This does not go over well in a mostly-Jewish household.

The main things most people probably recall of Sheriff John were two songs he "sang" every day. In the mid-fifties, he recorded a single record and whoever wrote the two tunes on it made a load of ASCAP money because he literally played each side each day. He would open his show by lip-syncing to "Laugh and Be Happy." Here — give a listen…

Then later in the show, he would read off the names of boys and girls who were celebrating their birthdays that day and he'd spin a prop birthday cake — the same non-edible one for decades — and he'd lip-sync the other side of his record, "The Birthday Cake Polka"…

If you grew up in Los Angeles when I grew up in Los Angeles, those songs were already embedded in your brain forever. And if they weren't before, they are now.

John Rovick went to work for KTTV Channel 11 in 1949 and stayed there for the rest of his career, retiring in 1981 and later relocating to Idaho. He was a staff announcer throughout this period and I remember recognizing his voice on and in-between other programs when he wasn't sheriffing. For a real overview of his career and life, read this obit in the L.A. Times by Dennis McLellan. Dennis, you call me for help with so many other obits, why didn't you call me for Sheriff John? I would have told you about my one (1) encounter with the man…

It was around 1977. It was in the Denny's at Sunset and Van Ness, right across the street from KTLA (where I was then working) and right across the street from KTTV (where he was then working). I recognized John Rovick strolling out as some co-workers and I were strolling in. I immediately abandoned my friends and ran over to him and said, "Mr. Rovick? May I tell you how much your show meant to me? And may I call you Sheriff?" He laughed, shook my hand and proceeded to be exactly the modest, friendly man you'd expect/want him to be. He asked about me and what I was doing…and I told him that I'd once watched Porky Pig cartoons on his show and had grown up (kinda) to write the Porky Pig comic book.  He liked that a lot.

I was writing a show for Sid and Marty Krofft at the time and one of our voice actors (putting words into the mouths of Krofft puppets) was Walker Edmiston, who had also been a star of local kids' TV for a time and had even appeared with his own puppets on Sheriff John's series. I told Mr. Rovick this and his face lit up and he told me to give his best to Walker, which I of course did. Anyway, I sensed a gleam of pride in him that a kid who'd grown up on his program was now working in television. I also sensed that being stopped like that by a grown-up former Lunch Brigader was a near-daily occurrence for the man. And that's really all there is to this story —

— except that when I went back to my friends and told them who it was I'd fled them for, the ones who didn't grow up in L.A. didn't see what the big deal was, and the ones who had were angry that they'd missed their chance to say all the same things to him. One of them became a steady patron at that Denny's after that, hoping to get his own moment with Sheriff John. Or at least I think that's why he ate there every day. It certainly wasn't because of the food.

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Victor & Billy

by Mark Evanier

ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED 1/19/01
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Saturday, December 23, 2000…

'Tis the season to be jolly but Leonard Maltin and I just depressed each other on the phone. I told him that Victor Borge had passed away and he told me that Billy Barty had died.

Mr. Borge was either a very funny pianist or a very musical comedian. I never met the man but about once a decade, commencing when I was around ten, I managed to see him perform in concert. The first time was at the Greek Theatre, here in Los Angeles, where his opening act was the eminent ventriloquist, Señor Wences. Between their two accents, I couldn't understand one word all evening but I was pretty sure they were funny.

The last time I saw Borge was about five years ago, and he performed what I suspect was the exact same act, right down to the bit about musical punctuation marks. The only thing he changed over the years was the part where he hit a loud chord, startling himself so much that he fell off the piano bench.

With great dignity, taking his own sweet time about it, he would get up and dust himself off. Then he'd open the piano bench, pull out the ends of a seat belt, close the bench, sit down, buckle himself in and launch into Rachmaninoff.

He dropped that bit about the time he turned 70. He did the rest of the act all around the world for the next 21 years.

The last few times I saw him, I could understand most of what he said. It turned out I was right. He was very funny.


Billy Barty was a star even before he was short.

He made his film debut somewhere around 1930, when he was six years old and roughly the right height for his age. He continued playing children for a long time, even after reaching his maximum span of 3-feet, 10 inches. Later, he became a frequent actor in movies and a guest star on a staggering number of TV programs. For a time, he even had a kids' show on Los Angeles TV. On it, he hosted Three Stooges shorts and played games with a live audience of 11-year-olds, most of whom towered over him.

People called him a midget but that wasn't so. He was a dwarf. If you want to get technical, he had what is called Cartilage Hair Syndrome Hypoplasia.

That difference mattered a lot to Billy, especially when he became famous from his TV appearances. He heard from a lot of others with similar conditions, some of whom were bothered that he allowed the press to call him a midget. The word "dwarf" had come to have a negative connotation — thank you, Mr. Disney — and Billy began to crusade against the stereotypes and certain physical problems

In 1975, he founded a non-profit organization — the Billy Barty Foundation — that did a lot to lessen the stigmas. I just copied the following from its website…

Most of us with dwarfism prefer to be described as "Little People"' And please, put the emphasis on the word 'People.' We did not spring from the pages of a storybook or emerge from an enchanted forest. We are not magical beings and we are not monsters. We are parents and sons and daughters. We are doctors and lawyers and realtors and teachers. We dream, cry, laugh, shout, fall in love, and make mistakes. We are no different from you.

Dwarfism is a condition that affects over 1.5 million people in the U.S. alone, and there are over 100 different types of dwarfism. Most Little People are born to families with no history of dwarfism. Even today, in the most open-minded and prejudice-intolerant society ever in recorded human history, people with dwarfism are still subjected to degrading stereotypes, societal barriers, and attitudinal barriers.We endure everything from job discrimination and reduced social opportunities to physical abuse and open public ridicule on a daily basis.

Billy was absolutely dedicated to the cause…which is not to say he did not have a wonderful sense of humor about his physical succinctness. It was, after all, the thing that made him famous. He also had a wicked appreciation of its occasional perks — like the fact that much of the world had to come down to meet him on his level.

I was the head writer on a number of shows produced by Sid and Marty Krofft, and he was part of their stock company, cast in most everything they did. I'm 6'3" and often, when I had to confer with Billy on some script point, I'd stoop or get down on one knee.

We'd finish our discussion and he'd start to walk away. Then he'd turn around, look at me still crouching in position and grin, "I'm leaving now. You can get up."

One time, we went to lunch together. Billy had all sorts of medical woes that made it difficult for him to walk and, since my parking space was on the other side of the lot, I said, "You wait here…I'll go get my car."

"Don't bother," he said. He led me to his parking spot in a handicapped space, right outside where we were taping and announced, "I'll drive."

It was a big car — a Lincoln, I think, bigger than any car I've ever owned. The front seat had been modified to bring it extra-close to the dashboard, and the gas pedal and brake had extensions. Billy hopped effortlessly and comfortably onto a special, elevated cushion behind the wheel. I had no such ease trying to squeeze into the passenger spot.

"You might be more comfy in the back," Billy chuckled after watching me play Twister for about two minutes.

He was right. I was. And I recall hoping that someone I knew would see me, being chauffeured around Hollywood by Billy Barty. I wanted to say to them, "That's nothing. I have four of the surviving Munchkins trimming my hedges!"


One of the programs we did was a short-lived thing called the Krofft Superstar Hour, which was comprised of multiple segments. We did thirteen of them in "block scheduling," meaning that we taped thirteen openings, then thirteen closings, then thirteen episodes of a department called "Horror Hotel," then thirteen episodes of "Lost Island," and so on. Later, when we had thirteen of everything, it would all be mix-and-matched into thirteen hour-long shows.

Billy was signed for the run of the series. He appeared in both "Horror Hotel" and "Lost Island," though you'd never have known he was in the former.

The Kroffts, as everyone knows, specialized in strange costumed creatures and "Horror Hotel" was full of them. The role Billy was assigned was that of Seymour the Spider, which involved a bulky, fur-covered costume that completely covered him. The character's voice was supplied by a wonderful actor named Walker Edmiston, situated at a nearby microphone.

You couldn't see or hear Billy when he played Seymour. There was no way anyone watching could have had any idea who was in the spider suit, but for the obvious fact that, whoever it was, he or she was pretty short.

We began rehearsing and the first time I watched Billy running madly around as Seymour, a little alarm bell went off in my noggin. Just being inside that get-up under hot lights was clearly an ordeal. Every break, when they took the head piece off, he was drenched in perspiration, gasping for air…and he was not a young man.

Worse, the role was very strenuous, involving a lot of chase sequences. Often, it meant scurrying up and down stairs, and Billy had trouble walking, even out of costume. He was also having trouble seeing out of the eyeholes.

I decided this wouldn't do and spent the rest of the afternoon chopping down Seymour's participation, assigning many of his lines and actions to others. This would not affect Billy's paycheck in any way. It just meant fewer hours in the spider suit and less running, which I assumed would please him. It would conserve his strength for "Lost Island," in which he would appear without an identity-hiding costume; where his acting skills were really needed.

The next morning when I walked in, a Production Assistant ran up to me and said, "Thank God you're here! You're needed down on the set. It's Billy Barty!"

"He hurt himself?" I asked. That was my first thought.

"No, he's throwing a tantrum, saying he's going to quit or something. He demands to see you."

I ran down to the set, squatted next to a very irate Mr. Barty and asked, "Billy, what's wrong?"

Furious, he waved the script revisions and yelled, "You cut me out of the show! I've been in show business for almost half a century! Nobody ever chopped my part down like this before!"

I started to quote the old maxim about there being no small roles, only small actors, then thought better of it. What I actually said was, "Billy, we're trying to save your energy…"

"You don't like my work?"

"Billy, we love your work. You're irreplaceable and we need you healthy when we start taping 'Lost Island.' We didn't want you to get hurt — "

"I'm an actor," he said. "I want to act."

I said, "Billy…no one even knows it's you. You're completely covered and Walker does the voice so — "

"I'm an actor," he said again. "I'm being paid to act, just like everyone else here. I want to act."

"Okay," I shrugged. We went back to the old scripts and, for the next two weeks, I watched Billy sweat and bump into things and become exhausted playing Seymour the Spider. And he loved every minute of it, because he was an actor and he was acting.


That was one of two times I saw Billy upset. The other is a story I told here a few years ago, but it's too good not to reiterate.

At the same time we were doing the Krofft shows, Hervé Villechaize was playing Tattoo, the sidekick on Fantasy Island — you know, the diminutive guy with the thick accent who used to yell, "The plane! The plane!"

Years later, I wound up producing a special on which Mr. Villechaize appeared. He was a mean and troubled little man…and I mean "little" in both the physical and spiritual sense. He somehow thought that because he was a TV star, he was entitled to the same treatment as Tom Selleck, and the same access to women. He drove them nuts on our set, grabbing and groping from unanticipated angles, and demanding they zip his fly.

Because of his condition, Hervé had no strength in his hands. He could barely grip anything and certainly could not, he claimed, work his own zipper. Ergo, every time he had a costume change or a toilet break, he would stride up to the most attractive woman around and insist she do the honors. And she would, in turn, complain to the producer, who was me.

I finally had to deputize the Stage Manager. I told him, "From now on, you are not only Stage Manager but also Associate Producer in Charge of Dwarf Trouser Adjustment." Since then, whenever people ask me what a TV producer does, I tell them this story.

Hervé was an enormous pain in many ways, not the least of which was that, in front of the camera, he was pretty lousy. His accent was impenetrable and, instead of rehearsing and learning his lines, he spent his time ordering around male employees and discomforting female ones. The lack of effort was especially galling since he'd been hired in something of a mercy booking.

Since he'd been dismissed from Fantasy Island — for reasons clearly evident — he'd had next-to-no work. This was partly due to an understandable paucity of roles for three-foot-eleven Frenchmen, but it also had something to do with the reputation he'd built within the industry. One of our producers, aware of his medical tribulations and the fact that he was about to lose his Screen Actors Guild health insurance, had insisted we find a spot for him.

We did. You know the saying about "No good deed?" Exactly.


I mention all this to make a point of contrast: Hervé's "stardom," such as it was, was based wholly on him being an oddity. That was why his career didn't last long. It basically consisted of a couple of freak bookings, plus the ancillary momentum from being on Fantasy Island. No one ever hired him because they thought he'd be good on camera. They just thought he'd be short.

Billy Barty was usually hired to be short, but also to be funny. That was why he was always in-demand. There are plenty of dwarves and midgets around. Billy worked steadily for close to seventy years because he was an actor and he loved acting…even loved it enough to run around for weeks in a stifling spider outfit.

But the story I wanted to close with — the one I told before — occurred one day when we were still doing the Krofft Superstar Hour. That week's TV Guide featured a cover story on Hervé that infuriated Billy. He was stalking around our set, muttering unkind comments about Mr. Villechaize. I asked him why.

His irritation, he explained, was because in the interview, Hervé had insisted he was a midget, not a dwarf. Billy said that was a lie — one that distressed him because he was working so hard to remove the negative implications of the word, "dwarf."

As he was explaining this to me, someone else came by and asked Billy what he was riled about. Billy answered them with what may well be the funniest line I've heard uttered in thirty years in and around show business.

He said, "It's Hervé. He's passing for a midget!"

I was squatting when he said it and I fell over and just laughed for around twenty minutes. I'm laughing now, recalling his delivery. He really was a very funny man.


I've been trying to figure out how to end this without some sort of "short" reference — you know, like, "He may have been three-foot-ten, but he was a giant, blah blah blah…" Too easy, too obvious. So I'll just say that Billy Barty was a helluva great guy and a true professional. I'm very glad he had a long, glorious career because he certainly earned it. In a field where so few get what they deserve, it's always nice when someone does.

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Bob Clampett

by Mark Evanier

ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED 3/17/00
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On February 28, 1949, a puppet show called Time For Beany debuted on KTLA, channel 5 in Los Angeles. It was instantly one of the best shows on television.

That is not much of a compliment, given how little was on television in 1949. KTLA only broadcast a few hours per day and most shows looked like what you and I might throw together with a budget of twelve dollars, an empty garage and the security camera from a 7-Eleven store. But over the next few years, TV rapidly improved and Time For Beany remained one of the best shows on television.

It was that rarest, most elusive of creatures: A kids' show that adults enjoyed watching — and not just any adults. Among its declared fans were Groucho Marx, Albert Einstein and the kid who would grow up to be Frank Zappa. (Allegedly, Einstein once cut short a high-level meeting on quantum molecular mechanics by announcing, "Excuse me, gentlemen, but it's Time For Beany!")

If you're going to do a show for no money and attract that kind of audience, you'd better be damned clever. Time For Beany was damned clever. Actually, there were many clever folks involved in its production but its producer-creator and its two performers were three of the cleverest humans ever in show business. They were, respectively, Bob Clampett, Stan Freberg and Daws Butler.

Time For Beany was my pre-natal favorite. That is almost not a joke: My mother watched it every night when she was pregnant with me. She says she liked thinking that the kid inside her was somehow hearing or absorbing all its brilliant silliness. Not long after I was born in 1952, I became, I'm told, an avid watcher of the show. I, of course, have no memory of this but I'll bet the sound was a lot better outside the womb.

There's a theory that the personality of a child can be nurtured and steered by directing certain kinds of music towards the belly of an expectant mother. I have no idea if there's even a morsel of truth to this notion. I will only note that, in all my life, I have never felt closer to the work of any creative talents than the individual and collective outputs of Bob Clampett, Stan Freberg and Daws Butler.

Freberg was a former cartoon voice artist and radio actor who went on to become one of America's great satirists, and the master of the funny commercial. Butler was another cartoon voice actor who later worked with Freberg on radio and records, but he remained in the cartoon voice field and became one of its three-or-so best, the other two being Mel Blanc and June Foray. No one ever did what Stan and Daws did better than Stan and Daws.


Nor did anyone ever top Bob Clampett in his career. Actually, Bob had three careers and he was wildly successful in all three. First, he was a director of theatrical animation. Later, he created and produced puppet shows for television. Still later, he produced animation for TV. Time For Beany, with its myriad early Emmy awards, was the crowning achievement of Career #2.

Robert "Bob" Clampett was born in 1913. As a youth, he developed a love of cartooning, puppetry and near-lethal punning — three skills that would serve him well in his putative adulthood. In 1931, he went to work for the Harman-Ising animation studio, just in time to help animate the very first Merrie Melodies cartoon. Harman-Ising soon passed the series on to what became the Warner Brothers cartoon department and Bob went with it.

At first, Bob was an animator and a contributor of gags. In 1936, he was promoted to the director's chair from which he would eventually supervise around 80 cartoons. The first 20 or so were good. The next 20 or so were better. And then he hit a streak and began to make great cartoon after great cartoon. Here are just a few titles…

Porky in Wackyland. Tin Pan Alley Cats. A Tale of Two Kitties. Bugs Bunny Gets the Boid. Horton Hatches the Egg. Kitty Kornered. A Corny Concerto. An Itch in Time. Falling Hare. Baby Bottleneck. Wabbit Twouble. Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs. And my favorite, The Great Piggy Bank Robbery.

If Bob had done nothing else but these films, we would still be hailing him as one of the all-time greats. I watched them on TV as a kid and thought they were very funny. But I didn't know how very funny until I saw them with an audience.

Theatrical cartoons were made to be viewed, not alone at home on a little box, but on a big screen with lotsa people all around. You have to see them that way to appreciate how hilarious some of them can be…and how expertly timed. That timing was perhaps the most amazing aspect of what Clampett and his crew of storymen, animators and other artists brought forth.

The director of a live-action comedy can overshoot a little…let each scene run a bit long, perhaps shoot some alternate versions and some "coverage" (extra shots). Then he can preview the film in front of a few live gatherings and edit according to their reactions. Almost every live-action film undergoes renovations — some of them, serious — after audience testing.

Except on rare occasions at Disney, animation directors have never had those luxuries. A cartoon is made to pretty much its final length. When you edit, you don't have alternate takes or the same scene shot from different angles. You can't let scenes run long and then trim later. You have to know what you're doing from the start

Bob knew what he was doing.

The other cartoon directors at WB did too but, for the most part, later on. Clampett's "golden streak" ran from roughly 1942 until he left the studio in 1946. If you compare that work to what others were concurrently outputting, it's even more impressive. You can also see that Bob had a lot to do with establishing what we now know as the style and standard of Warner Brothers cartoons…and a lot to do with launching and/or developing many of their key characters, including Tweety, Daffy Duck and The Wabbit.


As I said, I began to realize how brilliant these films were when I saw them with live audiences. I recommend the experience to those of you who've only watched them on your 19" Trinitrons.

That's a downside of the home video revolution. There used to be many more cartoon festivals, as they were just about the only place one could see classic animation. In the late-60's/early-70's, it seemed like there was one every week somewhere. I recall some glorious evenings, crammed into ancient theaters and auditoriums, sharing with friends and strangers, glorious laughter and a thrilling sense of discovery.

And there was another bonus: It was at one such festival around 1970 that I got to meet Bob Clampett. I don't recall what I said to him but I guarantee you that it was gushy and filled with gratitude…and that Bob was humble, appreciative and disarmingly friendly. That was the way he was, always and with everyone — utterly accessible, always willing to take time to answer anyone's questions about anything he'd done.

Wait. I hear skepticism: Okay, so the guy liked to talk about his work. Fine. Lots of people love to talk about themselves. What's the big deal?

Well, with Bob, the big deal was that he didn't just love to talk about his work. He even more enjoyed talking about your work.

Bob would gladly spend an hour answering your questions, no matter how geeky. He'd discourse on Warner Brothers cartoons or Time For Beany or Thunderbolt the Wondercolt (that was another of his puppet shows) or anything else he'd seen or done. But you had to be prepared to spend an hour answering his questions about what you were up to.

He was genuinely fascinated by what his fans were doing, what they were accomplishing. He'd give you an autograph but, if you'd done anything you could sign, you had to give one to him. He'd give you all the wisdom and info he had to give — which was considerable — but you had to share yours, however little there may have been of either.

I didn't have a lot to offer. The only time I ever felt I was telling Bob anything he didn't know was once when we sat together, whispering back and forth, throughout a screening of Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. I was explaining obscure cinema "in" jokes and even murkier sexual imagery, while Bob kept looking at me like Russ Meyer, Roger Ebert and I had all conspired to drive him mad, simply mad.

Still, away from that movie, he was a wonderful fount of information and inspiration. If you ever got to meet Bob — we lost him, sadly, back in '84 — you know all this. And if you never got that opportunity…well, I'm sorry you never had that pleasure, because it was one. I can, however, suggest the next best thing…


All of this has been leading up to an unabashed plug for what's easily the best thing I've seen released on DVD — and it's only on DVD, not videotape. If you don't have a DVD player yet, Bob Clampett's Beany and Cecil — The Special Edition is reason enough to purchase one.

It's a new release from Image that, at first glance, appears to feature just cartoons from the 1962 Beany and Cecil cartoon series. And it does — a dozen of the best, splendidly transferred anew from the 35mm negatives.

That alone would be worth the $29.99 retail price (Amazon-dot-com has it for $23.99) but that's just the beginning. The disc is a loving and thorough overview of the incredible careers of Bob Clampett.

There are also four full episodes of the Time for Beany puppet show, samples of Bob's other TV shows. There's also a gallery with hundreds of still images of Beany and Cecil merchandise, publicity photos and backstage glimpse, plus hours of audio interviews with Clampett, Freberg and another performer on the puppet show, Walker Edmiston. You even get an audio recording of an actual Beany and Cecil story session.

(Another of the great things about Bob was that he saved everything! A bunch of us were up at his house one night, watching his old cartoons. Following Russian Rhapsody, which he'd made in 1944, one of them asked Bob how a certain effect had been accomplished. Bob said, "Just a second," disappeared into the next room and returned with the actual cels and background paintings for that scene, so he could explain in full.)

So doesn't this new DVD release sound that terrific? Doesn't all that make it a must-have? Well, as they say on the infomercials: Wait! There's more!

Also included are a dozen-or-so samplings of Bob's "lost work" — pilots, test films and/or audio tracks from projects that, 'til now, never saw the light of day. If that doesn't sell you on your purchase, nothing will, so I'll just shut up,

— That is, after I mention that it was all lovingly assembled by Robert Clampett, Jr., doubtlessly with an assist from the lovely and charming Sody Clampett, who was the spouse of Bob, Senior. Fine job, Clampetts!

To those who are DVD-less and pondering the purchase of a player, this is a splendid example of how DVD is better than plain ol' videotape or even Laserdisc. It's not just the video quality; it's all the extras and the interactive menu that allows one to access them directly. You get almost four hours of goodies on this disc and everything is a goody.

If they could figure a way to include a big, raucous live audience in the package, it would be perfect.


The plugging completed, I'll close with one of my favorite memories of Bob…

It was at one of those animation festivals I mentioned earlier — one I'd help program — held in a big conference room (not an auditorium). This was after I'd gotten to know Bob and we were standing together in the back as a packed house was roaring at A Tale of Two Kitties, which was the first Tweety cartoon, made during World War II.

During those fun years, many cities staged Blackout Drills, during which everyone had to extinguish every bulb or candle in their home. Air Raid Wardens would prowl the street and issue warnings if they saw the slightest flicker of luminosity. It became a catch-phrase of sorts to yell, "Turn out that light!"

At the end of A Tale of Two Kitties, Tweety is presiding over a blackout and the last line of the cartoon is him screaming, "Turn out those lights!" Just before we got to it, Bob motioned to the light switch near me and whispered, "We could do a funny gag here. Turn on the lights in the room just before Tweety yells, 'Turn out those lights!'"

If Bob had asked me to leap out the window, I might have done so…but this request seemed wrong somehow. I whispered back, "This cartoon is too funny as it is. It doesn't need any extra jokes."

Bob smiled, "You're right," so I didn't do it.

At the end of the film, there was huge applause for it and all the Clampett masterworks that had preceded it that evening. Bob was mobbed by admirers but later, when we were alone, I tried to explain to him why I'd overruled his suggestion: "See, I wanted the audience to experience the film the way you made it and — "

He interrupted. "No, you were right. That's a problem I have some time. I'm always looking for that extra gag."

Get this: Here's a man, hailed as one of the all-time greats in his field, watching people convulsed in laughter at his work. And he's still trying to improve on a cartoon he made in 1942.

I think that was the secret of Bob's success. He was always looking for that extra gag. "Too funny" was never enough.

COL161

Don Messick

by Mark Evanier

ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED 11/21/97
Comics Buyer's Guide

In the forties, M.G.M. was the movie studio with, they claimed, "more stars than there are in the heavens." No one thought that was excessive bragging; not with a roster of players that included Gene Kelly, Fred Astaire, Judy Garland, Mickey Rooney, the Marx Brothers, Clark Gable, and Tom and Jerry.

Tom and Jerry were the lowest-paid of the batch. That's because they were drawn.

For a decade and a half, the producer-director team of William Hanna and Joseph Barbera conjured up short cartoons of the cat/mouse team. Their films — highly-popular to the point of winning Oscars — ran proudly before M.G.M. movies in theaters until 1956, when M.G.M. decided to get out of animation.

Suddenly unemployed, Bill and Joe knew there was scant future in making cartoons for theatrical release. Instead, they formed an operation to produce them for television. That meant doing them a lot faster and a whole lot cheaper. The last seven-minute Tom and Jerry cartoons had been produced on a budget of $65,000 apiece. The first five-minute Ruff n' Reddy TV films were made for $2700 each.

The cutback was achieved many ways. Ruff was a feisty little cat and Reddy was an easygoing dog, and neither of them moved a lot. That their adventures were fun to watch had a lot to do with the cleverness of the scripts and with two men — Don Messick and Daws Butler. Don did the voice of Ruff, Daws did the voice of Reddy, and they split all the other parts.

Daws and Don were two of the best voice actors ever. Hire one of them and you had an instant cast. Either could play a six-year-old boy, a doddering octogenarian, a feisty Irish policeman, a gravel-voiced stevedore, a hysterical teen-ager in the throes of puberty, a whimpering Russian Tsar, and an inebriated lhasa apso with a bad stutter. And he could play all of them at once, arguing with one another, each voice interrupting the next.

That's what either could do. Put both of them in a studio and you had a rep company of infinite possibilities. And what's more, they were funny.

Ruff n' Reddy was a good start. Then Bill and Joe sold the Kellogg's people on a show called Huckleberry Hound, which featured three separate cartoons. Each week, you got the adventures of Pixie & Dixie (Don was Pixie, Daws was Dixie and their eternal rival, the Brando-like Mr. Jinks). You also got a wonderful cartoon of Yogi Bear (Daws was Yogi, Don was his sidekick Boo Boo, as well as playing the long-suffering Ranger Smith). And there was the title character's cartoon (Daws was Huck, Don was whatever supporting players were needed each time).

If one assessed the animation, one would find this show woefully deficient by the Disney Scale. But 6-year-olds just care if it's funny. I was six when Huckleberry Hound went on the air so I can testify: They were very funny — in large part because of Daws and Don.

Daws, who passed away around nine years ago, was one of the dearest, most talented men I have ever met. Today, the cartoon business abounds with talented folks who studied in his acting classes. Someday soon, I will have to devote a column or three to this wonderful person.

Don Messick, I regret to report, died on October 24, 1997. I'd like to tell you about him now.


Don Messick was born in Buffalo, New York in 1926. They didn't get his mother to the hospital in time and Don was born in an ambulance.

His family soon moved to Maryland where, at the age of 12, Don began hearing strange voices out of nowhere. That was odd enough but soon, people around Don began hearing them, as well. It didn't take long for a doctor to deduce that the voices were coming from Don. He was unconsciously talking to himself and others.

Years later, he recalled the experience: "The doctor said, 'Lots of people talk without saying anything, but you're a freak. You say things without even talking.' He told me to gargle with pink ink. Instead, I got myself a wooden partner and became a ventriloquist." Soon, with a whole repertoire of voices at his command, he broke into local radio, took acting lessons, played night clubs and dabbled in summer stock theater. In 1947, fresh from the Army, he headed for Los Angeles and began to perform on the radio shows of the day.

Making the rounds, he met another new radio actor — Daws Butler, who was himself fresh out of the Navy. They became friends and Daws, who was also starting to do animated cartoons, helped his pal break into that field.

Don could never recall quite what his first voice job was but it was probably a line or two as Droopy. A gent named Bill Thompson originated and usually performed Droopy's voice. Tex Avery, who directed the mush-mouthed mutt's cartoons, was always adding a new gag at the last minute and calling Thompson back to record one more line. Often, Thompson wasn't available so Tex himself would imitate the voice or have Daws (who did other roles in his films) approximate it. Neither was completely satisfactory.

One time, Daws told Tex he knew an actor who could replicate the distinctive voice better than anyone. Messick came in and did the voice so well, he became the Designated Pinch Droopy. Years later when Thompson passed away, Don inherited the role.

He and Daws sometimes did commercials together, but it was when Hanna-Barbera started up that they became the studio "A" team. Don soon proved his value, not only to voice "star" characters but also as a utility infielder.

On the original Jonny Quest series, he played Jonny's father, Dr. Benton Quest. He was one of the Hillbilly Bears, he was Precious Pupp, he was one of The Impossibles, he was Gloop and Gleep on The Herculoids. He was Hong Kong Phooey's cat, the Chan Clan's dog, the Harlem Globetrotters' pooch, and dozens of other non-verbal creatures.

He was Godzooky on the Godzilla series. He was Sebastian the Cat and Bleep the Alien on Josie and the Pussycats. On Shazzan!, he did the voice of a camel.

He was Muttley on the Wacky Races and Dastardly and Muttley in Their Flying Machines and he was Mumbly (big difference) on Mumbly and on Scooby's All-Star Laff-a-Lympics.

He even worked on a lot of non-Hanna-Barbera shows. He was Tadpole on Spunky & Tadpole, and he was Hampton the Pig on Tiny Toon Adventures.

Now, this is a pretty impressive list but for several reasons, it's woefully incomplete. First off, no one ever hired Don Messick to do one voice. So if he did one part on a show, he probably did a half-dozen other characters. Also, as I mentioned, directors often used him as a "wild card," playing all sorts of supporting players, so he was heard on hundreds of shows wherein he did not play a regular character.

And the list is also incomplete because…well, it's incomplete. I haven't even mentioned the several Smurfs he played. Or the Jetsons' dog.

In fact, I haven't even mentioned Scooby Doo.

That's right: For over twenty years, Don made all those weird, expressive sounds — many of them starting with the sound of the letter "R" — that emanated from the longest-running cartoon superstar created for television…Scooby Doo.

Don was amazing. I've worked with all the great cartoon voice artists and no one could match him at multiple roles. (I even directed him a few times, which was mostly a matter of hiring him and then getting out of the way.) He could play nine people in a cartoon, all talking to each other. If you weren't watching, you'd swear nine separate people were making the sounds.

The oft-told story about Don — and it happened many times — had to do with overlapping. That means two actors talking at the same time, which drives the sound editors crazy. And the way the story went was that a director would have to halt a session and tell the actors, "The actor playing Pete and the actor playing Sam keep overlapping."

And there would be a pause before Don Messick said, "I'm playing both those parts."


In late September of '96, Don was in a recording session at Hanna-Barbera when something horrible happened.

Don had done thousands and thousands of recording sessions in his lifetime. He was always on time, always cooperative, always letter-perfect in his performance. If you are a director, you pray for actors like Don Messick. He had never, ever let anyone down.

Suddenly, in this session, he turned pale and muttered, "I can't do this anymore." Then he stumbled out of studio and went home. (No one seems to know exactly how he got home. Don lived about a two-hour drive from Hanna-Barbera.)

Another actor who was there at time told me, "If it had been anyone else, we'd have figured the guy had the flu or he had a hangover or something. But for Don Messick to not finish a job…we all started crying because we knew it had to be something very, very bad."

The next day, Don's agent phoned around town to quietly spread the word that Don Messick was retired, and that other actors should be cast to take over his characters.

That was doubly-chilling. Most actors want their agents to wait until they're dead, buried and well into rigor mortis before they let their roles be recast. It was obvious to everyone in the animation community that the long, glorious career of Don Messick had come to an end.

But some of us felt we'd been robbed. We wanted the chance to say good-bye to Don.

On October 12, 1996, Joe Barbera sent a limo to fetch Mr. and Mrs. Messick. They were chauffeured to Don's favorite Chinese restaurant for a "retirement party."

If you admire cartoon voice actors (and I do), the event was crammed with folks to admire. There was Henry Corden, who has been the second voice of Fred Flintstone, even longer than the late Alan Reed was the first. And there was Jean Vander Pyl, who has been the one and only Wilma Flintstone, all that time. (Messick did the voice of Bamm-Bamm on The Flintstones, along with hundreds of other supporting characters.)

There was Casey Kasem, who is a popular announcer and disc jockey, but whose big cartoon voice credit is all those years as Shaggy on the various Scooby Doo shows. (As mentioned, Don was Scooby Doo and, except for one season, his feisty nephew Scrappy, as well.)

There was Lucille Bliss, who has worked for every studio in the business, but who worked with Don on The Smurfs when she was Smurfette and he was Papa Smurf.

There was Gary Owens, another great announcer and TV personality, who played Space Ghost on the show of the same name. (Don was Space Ghost's monkey mascot Blip, as well as many of the villains.)

There was June Foray, the premier voice actress of the field, the voice of Rocky the Flying Squirrel, Natasha Fatale, and Tweety's owner, Granny, among hundreds of others. She had worked with Don hundreds of times in cartoons and commercials.

There was Howard Morris, the great character actor and director, who did the voice of Mr. Peebles on Magilla Gorilla (Don was Ricochet Rabbit on the same show). Howie also played various characters on The Jetsons (Don was the dog Astro on that show, and he also did various characters, including my favorite, a robot named Uniblab.) Howie was also Atom Ant originally but one day, he suggested that Joe Barbera do something anatomically-impractical, and then Don wound up playing Atom Ant.

There was Teresa Ganzel, who does occasional cartoon voice work, but who is best remembered as Johnny Carson's last Matinee Lady, and as a star of the short-lived situation comedy, The Duck Factory. (Don did a rare on-camera acting job playing a cartoon voice actor on The Duck Factory.)

And there were voice actors who work too much and play too many roles for me to start listing them here: Maurice LaMarche, Neil Ross, Gregg Berger, Walker Edmiston, Sharon Mack, Marvin Kaplan, Greg Burson, and others.

Daws Butler's widow Myrtis was there. So were animation producers like Joe Barbera and Harry Love, directors like Don Jurwich, and writers like Paul Dini and Earl Kress. It was quite an assemblage of folks, all there to pay tribute to Don Messick and to tell him how much we loved him.

Mr. Messick's speech was slurred from what we were told was a stroke. Strangely enough, while he was unable to actually form sentences, he was still able to make the "noise" of Scooby Doo. He was wearing a Scooby tie and he communicated with each of us by pointing to the Great Dane and muttering a little "thank you" in Scooby-speak. It came out as "Rank roo" but it was touching and warm, and I heard someone say, "Don made Scooby talk all those years…and now Scooby is helping Don to express himself."

At the end of the afternoon, a lot of us had damp eyes as we said good-bye to Don. We meant it as "good-bye for now," but I think most of us presumed it was in perpetuity. A few weeks later, those who inquired about visiting Don in his home were told that he was too ill, and that his doctors did not expect him to get better. He passed away quietly a little more than a year later but never worked again.

I found out about nine hours ago and have been writing this and calling friends ever since. Our loss is great…and it's not that we're going to miss the sound of Don Messick's voice. True, it was a part of all our childhoods, but we can turn on the Cartoon Network any hour of the day or night and the odds of hearing Messick are pretty good. (If he's not on the show that's on now, wait. He'll be on the next one…)

No, what a lot of us will miss is Don. He was a true gentleman, a true professional, and he did his job as well as humanly possible. And maybe just a little bit better than that, even.