The Truth About Lies

Quite a few folks have written to argue that Cheney's claim of never meeting Edwards before the debate was a more consequential and deliberate falsehood than I think it is. I picked this message from Richard Bensam to represent this sentiment…

Gotta disagree with you on this one. Cheney saying he had never met Edwards wasn't a meaningless fib or glossing over some trivial detail or even an honest mistake. His allegation was intended as the capstone of Cheney's argument that Edwards is supposedly lacking in legislative experience, and has been largely absent from the Senate, in contrast to Cheney's purportedly tireless service to the nation. Cheney was trying to build a case against Edwards and used this claim they'd never met before as the clincher in his argument. It was no small matter, but immediately relevant to tearing down his opponent. But it was a lie.

Did Cheney himself feel that his case against Edwards was so weak that it needed to be bolstered with a lie that he imagined no one would bother to check? It's hard to imagine this could have been an honest mistake, given how long Edwards has been in the race, and how long Cheney has known he'd eventually be facing the senator in a televised debate. Can we really believe that he never once sat down and thought about any past encounters he'd had with Edwards, or asked an aide to research any past dealings they may have had?

And will Cheney step forward, now that the world knows he met Edwards on at least three separate occasions, and admit that he said something that was untrue, deliberately or not? That in itself would be a big step forward. Bush and Cheney have set themselves up as the people who never make mistakes, who never misstate things, and who would do everything exactly the same if they had it to do all over again. This has become their trademark. They act that way whether the topic is Iraq or Osama bin Laden or meeting John Edwards.

So, it's not some theory about small lies being equivalent to big lies that makes this important. It's important because this is what Cheney does every chance he gets.

Actually, I think Cheney might admit his mistake on this one. If I were slimy and in his position, I'd apologize for the error and say something like, "I guess I only remember Senators who've actually accomplished something in their terms of office." Then I could stick the knife in again and at the same time, maybe counteract a bit of the claim that I never admit mistakes. It would enable my supporters to say, "Hey, when Dick Cheney makes an error, he owns up to it."

Yes, I absolutely believe Cheney said it to tear down his opponent. But I also don't believe he said it, knowing it was untrue and that no one would bother to check. First of all, both men had to know that every syllable they uttered in that arena would be checked, cross-checked and placed under an electron microscope. Cheney especially knew that because his crew did that to Al Gore and succeeded in convincing much of America that innocent, accurate statements were "character-defining lies." Secondly, John Edwards was sitting right there. If Cheney thought, "Hmm, I'll pretend I never met this guy before tonight," he was running the risk of Edwards responding with something like, "Gee, I guess your memory is going, Mr. Vice-President. Let me list a couple of the times we met…" and making him look foolish or senile or just plain bad at facts. (One assumes Edwards didn't do that because he knew there were plenty of pictures and that he'd sound less wounded by the barb if he let others refute it and instead changed the topic.)

People lie either because they think they can get away with it, or because the truth would be more damning than being caught in a lie. We can all understand how Cheney, who is not a stupid man, would figure he can't say, "Well, yes, I have spent a lot of time suggesting that Iraq was deeply involved in 9/11." So he denies it. But no one asked him if he'd ever met Edwards before. He didn't have to say that. He could have insulted Edwards in dozens of other ways that couldn't be turned back on him with an old photo or file videotape. I think Cheney just got reckless, forgot he'd met Edwards before and said something he thought would have an impact in a debate where he wasn't doing as well as he'd hoped.

My other point is along the lines of those bumper stickers that say, "No one died when Clinton lied." No one will die as a result of Cheney's misstatement about meeting Edwards. Even if Cheney deliberately lied about that, it's not even in the same hemisphere of importance as lies relating to the wars in Iraq and on terrorism (and I think, by the way, Democrats should be making the point that those are really two separate wars). Look at the new revelations of how many administration officials knew those aluminum tubes were not related to any Iraq nuclear weapons program. So far, the kindest interpretation one can put on this is that a lot of senior officials in the White House staff knew they were spreading a justification for war that might well be false, and now they're lying about what they knew and when they knew it. Those are lies of the "truth would be more damning" variety.

It might well be that it will have more impact with the electorate for the Dems to sell the "never met Edwards" thing as a lie because they can show photos and footage that prove it isn't true. But if I'm going to get incensed about Dick Cheney lying, I'd prefer to be incensed about the statements that don't have any possible innocent explanation and that plunged us into a war under false pretenses.

Truth to Tell

I mentioned earlier that someone would surely make a commercial juxtaposing things Cheney said in the debate with footage of him saying the opposite. Sure enough, there's one now up at www.democrats.org. It's called "Cheney vs. Reality" and I wish they hadn't included the part where he says he never met Edwards. Even if it is lie (as opposed to a simple memory lapse), it's not in the same category as denying he ever spoke of a link between Iraq and 9/11.

The premise is that an administration that would lie about the small things would not hesitate to lie about the big things. I think they have that backwards. A lot of us will lie if a friend asks if we like their new haircut…but we'd never lie about something that might get someone killed. Or in this case, thousands of someones.

Teaser

Coming soon to this weblog: Chapter Two in Mark's problems with the home delivery service of Albertson's Markets.

Recommended Reading

Here's a good article by Frank Rich about how the Bush-Cheney campaign strategy seems to be coming unglued. The Times is now making Rich's weekend column available on Thursday morning which is why the site says this article was published on October 10, 2004.

Major Oops!

In last night's debate, Dick Cheney did not directly rebut John Edwards' allegations about Halliburton. Instead, he directed people to go read the non-partisan website, www.factcheck.com where, he said, they'd investigated the charge and debunked it. Cheney was wrong on a number of accounts…

  • He got the URL wrong. The site he had in mind was actually www.factcheck.org, a page maintained by the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania.
  • The actual www.factcheck.com is a name owned by a "placeholder" company, meaning that they haven't put a site at that address. When they started to be overloaded with hits at that address, its proprietors decided to forward everyone to someone else's site. They picked www.georgesoros.com, an anti-Bush site maintained by the Liberal billionaire.
  • So if you went to the site Cheney gave out, you found yourself on a page where the headline was, "President Bush is endangering our safety, hurting our vital interests, and undermining American values." This is probably not the message Cheney wanted all of America to study.
  • And then if you somehow found your way to www.factcheck.org, you found that their Hallburton article debunked different accusations against Cheney and that company. The article there in no way refuted the charges that Edwards had made.
  • Today, that website — which I guess now has Cheney's endorsement as a place to go for facts — has this page up that corrects a lot of things said by both Cheney and Edwards. It starts by saying, "Cheney wrongly implied that FactCheck had defended his tenure as CEO of Halliburton Co." So his only defense against Edwards' charges has collapsed on him.

A number of other things that were said by both men are not standing up to the test of time, even 18 hours later. I really like the fact-checking of public officials' statements, even when it says my candidate got something wrong. I don't think these lapses were all lies. Some of them were just innocent errors about unimportant matters.

On the other hand, I think some of what Cheney said, like the line about not linking Iraq to 9/11, were lies about important matters. And now that I think of it, the bottom line on who "lost" (still dislike that term) may have to do with who gave the opposition some great footage to use in a campaign commercial. Does anyone think the Democrats or some 527 aren't at this very moment editing an ad spot with two clearly-contradictory Cheney sound bites?

Today's Political Rant

I've probably mentioned this before but among my many complaints about political discourse these days is the devaluation of the word, "lie." A lie is now anything your opponent ever said which can possibly be interpreted as inaccurate.

To be completely non-partisan about it, here are two examples. In the 2000 Presidential Debate, Al Gore mentioned going to inspect fire damage in Parker County in Texas with FEMA head James Lee Witt. It turned out that while Gore had accompanied Witt to other disaster sites in Texas, the Parker County trip had been with someone else. I thought that was an innocent mistake but Republicans sold it hard as some sort of deliberate falsehood. Over on the National Review site, it's still cited on a page called "Gore Lies."

Last night, Dick Cheney said that the first time he'd ever met John Edwards was when they walked out on stage and shook hands. Democrats quickly produced photos and records that showed the two men had been together on at least two occasions, and quoted Tim Russert as saying he saw them shake hands backstage before the debate. This is being sold in many venues as a lie.

I don't think these things are lies. And even if they are, I don't think they reflect that badly on their speakers. I'd settle for any elected official if the worst lie his opponents could pin on him was something so trivial. The Democrats oughta be hammering Cheney on those aluminum tubes that were allegedly for nuclear weapons but actually weren't, or for statements about Weapons of Mass Destruction or even Halliburton. And we shouldn't be letting anyone get away with defining "lie" so loosely that it loses its meaning.

The Albertsons' Market Saga – Part 1

Okay, Mark needs to vent…

A couple years ago, I had a happy relationship with a local company that enabled you to order groceries online and have them delivered to your home the next day. The firm was super-efficient and they always showed up with exactly what I ordered. The one time they didn't have an item in stock, someone phoned me in advance and gave me the option of substituting, canceling the entire order or accepting it without the item in question. It worked well, at least for me.

I'm guessing it worked well for many of their customers but they were premature in starting it up (not enough potential customers on the Internet or used to ordering things that way) and also, I read that they had internal problems with financing. Anyway, the company — which kept changing names but was usually called WebVan, I think — went under. (I just did some research. It was HomeGrocer when I started ordering from them, then WebVan acquired HomeGrocer, then it went bankrupt.)

I liked that service so when I noticed that the Albertson's Grocery Chain offered something similar, I decided to give it a try…especially since they stock Progresso Tomato Rotini soup, which has somehow disappeared from most local markets. I placed a $105.00 order last night with a planned delivery window of 1:00-2:30 this afternoon.

Sure enough, at 12:45, a nice man was at my door, apologizing for being early, and he brought in my purchases. I was distracted at the time (had a plumber here) so I just stashed the frozen stuff in the fridge and a little later, went to put things away. That was when I noticed that certain items were in absentia, meaning I hadn't gotten my Chicken Parmesan Lean Pockets and several other goodies.

Okay, mistakes can happen. I phoned the Albertson's Customer Service line where they kept me for quite a long spell on hold, listening to what seemed like the extended, 40-minute mix of Billy Joel singing, "I Love You Just the Way You Are." Finally, a nice lady came on, looked me upon her computer and informed me that they were out of a number of items so I hadn't been charged for them. It was like, "So that's the answer. Anything else we can do for you?"

I asked, "Why didn't anyone tell me what I wasn't getting? Your delivery man didn't tell me which items I was missing. You sent me an e-mail confirming my order but not one saying, 'Oh, by the way, you're not getting your 64 fluid ounce container of Campbell's Tomato Juice.'" She repeated that I hadn't been charged for it or for five other items.

"Fine," I said. "But now I have to go to the market. And if I have to go to the market today, there was no point in me ordering online so I wouldn't have to go to the market today." She replied that on the sign-up portion of their website — which is no longer accessible once you've signed up — it states that they are not responsible for items that they are unable to deliver. (The site, by the way, tells you that specific items are "temporarily out of stock" and doesn't allow you to order them. This was not the case with anything I put in my little online shopping cart.) The e-mail I received confirming my order listed all the items and didn't say that some of them might not be available. And while I'm at it, how does a major grocery chain run out of Campbell's Tomato Juice?

I've learned not to argue for too long with people who have no power to change policy, so I had her kick me up to a higher-ranked Albertson's employee…a move which earned me a few more choruses from Billy Joel. I explained the whole thing again to this lady, adding that the market I would now go to, because Albertson's didn't fill my order, would not be an Albertson's. She apologized over and over and suggested that what I have to do is to write in the little space on the online form, "Call if any items cannot be delivered."

This unfortunately adds a new level to planning my day. With HomeGrocer/WebVan, I was pretty confident of getting what I ordered so I just had to order and then arrange to be home during the delivery window. With Albertson's, I have to order, then be up to take a call in the morning…and then, if enough items are outta-stock, I'll wind up canceling the order, which means that all my scheduling goes out the window. Or if I do take delivery, then I have to figure out what I didn't get (because they don't give me a list) and then drive somewhere and purchase it. This is screwy.

She did offer to charge back the delivery fee I paid and to inform highers-up of this shortcoming in their service. What she didn't offer was any reason to try Albertson's Online Home Grocery Delivery Service ever again. So if they fix things, I'll never know. Oh, well. At least I got my Tomato Rotini soup…eight cans of it. That almost makes up for the Billy Joel.

Rodney

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Gotta admit: I was never a huge fan of Rodney Dangerfield. Well, I kinda liked that you had a guy who flopped as a comedian and didn't let that stop him. He got out of show business for a while, then gave it another go and clicked. (That was why he got stuck with the joke name. When he went back to performing, he didn't want friends from his "other" job to know, so Jacob "Jack Roy" Cohen became Rodney Dangerfield, just for a while. Then the second career took off before he got a chance to change it to something else.) He worked hard and managed to develop a truly funny comic persona…though one that seemed to me to be paper-thin and sometimes very nasty. He was a performer who often made me nervous, and not in a good way.

He was always so "programmed." When Carson had him on, he didn't dare ask a real question. He just let Rodney sit there and do the jokes he'd picked in the order he'd planned. I remember one Tonight Show appearance in the Leno era when a guest on the couch interrupted Rodney with a comment, and you've never seen a professional comedian get so lost in the middle of his act. Dangerfield suddenly had no idea where he was, what he'd just said, what he was going to say next.

Audiences generally loved him, though the word along the comedy circuit was that he often disappointed them with high ticket prices, short sets and too-familiar material. People who worked with him were wildly divided, and I suspect that now that he's gone, there will be a suitable period of deference and then we'll start hearing anecdotes to the contrary. First, though, we have to get through an awful lot of obits that will say, "He finally got some respect."

The Veep Debate

Well, it's over. I don't know how the public will react to it. I don't think any knockout punches were landed. My suspicion in these things is always that the folks who were already going to vote for the Democrat will say the Democrat kicked butt and the folks who were already going to vote for the Republican will say the Republican took no prisoners…and those who have no great emotional commitment will say, "We don't really want either of these guys." But then, I was surprised that so many Bush supporters were willing to concede that he did poorly last week.

I thought Edwards did make a few strong points on issues like Health Care (and especially the Administration siding with drug companies over people) that are probably not going to budge a lot of voters. I also thought Cheney did a good job of throwing a lot of semi-personal accusations at Edwards — too many for him to address.

I guess I was disappointed in both men. It was a pretty bland debate, especially after they hit the speed bump of Domestic Affairs. Maybe it is true that no one votes for Vice-President and that we all just wasted 90 minutes of our lives.

Watching the Veep Debate…

They're discussing malpractice insurance and frivolous lawsuits. This is an important topic but no one's going to shift their vote over it.

I'm getting really sick of Edwards saying, "We have a plan…" and Cheney snarling and looking down.

Watching the Veep Debate…

Cheney has said a couple of times that he doesn't have enough time to respond to things Edwards is saying. Wonder what would happen if Edwards turned to him and said, "Well then, how about if we schedule another debate next week with no silly time limits?"

Watching the Veep Debate…

The moderator's doing a good, by-the-books job. But what I'd love to see are a couple of questions that the debaters' prep crews couldn't have anticipated.

We're halfway through and my sense is that nothing that's been said has changed anyone's mind about anything.

About fifteen minutes ago, I thought I saw Edwards give Cheney one of those looks that Chevy Chase used to deliver behind the back of someone who was delivering a serious editorial on Weekend Update.

Oops. There's another one.

Watching the Veep Debate…

Well, so much for the rule where they're not supposed to address each other directly.

I wish Edwards sounded a little less like Kerry's agent.

Watching the Veep Debate…

Too many planned talking points. Both of them.

Being limited to 90-120 seconds per answer may have helped Kerry. It may even have helped Bush. But at the moment, Cheney and Edwards are tackling too many areas in each question and the topics cry out for longer discussion.