I know what you've been waiting for with baited breath. And I'm pleased to announce that I've just noticed that www.irwincorey.com is open for business. The World's Foremost Authority has a whole website full of photos and routines and silly stuff — and it's surprisingly coherent, even if he isn't. It also tells us that he's appearing Sunday nights at a comedy club in New York and, if he's still doing that when next I go East, I intend to go see him. I recall him being very funny on talk shows and even funny in movies where no one else was funny. I suspect though he's way too spontaneous for what passes for a talk show these days.
The Name Game
What does your first name mean? Find out here.
The 11:35 Scramble
How we love a tale of apparent network screw-ups. I always felt that too much was made of seeming incompetence in the Letterman/Leno nastiness that formed the basis of the book and movie, The Late Shift. Soon after the latter came out, I was at a party where a network guy — someone who'd had zero to do with it — started in on how inept NBC had been in the handling of the changeover. On and on he went until someone asked, "Okay, what would you have done?"
And then it got a little messy because I knew the story pretty well and, every time the network guy said what he'd have done, I corrected the details. He'd say, "Well, I would have told Dave this…" and I'd jump in and remind him, "But at that point, Johnny was saying this." To which he'd respond, "Oh. Well, then I would have had Jay do that" and I'd say, "But at that point, Jay's contract said this." And on and on. The gent couldn't come up with any concrete action he would have taken, other than what was actually done, without rearranging the reality of the situation.
After about 20 minutes, he finally said, "Well, I would have treated everyone better," which of course meant that he couldn't even quarterback on Monday morning. Even with hindsight — knowing that which the players did not know at the time — he couldn't come up with a workable Plan B.
I dunno how the current Letterman/Koppel scuffle is going to play out. My guess right this minute is that Dave stays at CBS, Koppel limps along at ABC for a time while they look for a replacement and a more graceful way to ease him out of the time slot, and Bill Maher goes elsewhere for a much better deal. But regardless of the outcome, this dust-up strikes me as a clearer example of TV executives bungling negotiations. It probably won't spawn a book or a movie with a guy in a bad wig playing Dave…but this one seems sillier because it was so unnecessary. There had to be an eventual war over who'd replace Johnny because, sooner or later, Johnny had to leave. But trying to bring in Letterman to replace Koppel now is just a matter of greed. Nightline is, despite what some anonymous person claimed to The New York Times, profitable. It's not as profitable as Letterman would probably be in that position but you can't lose money with a news show that comes in second in its time slot.
Someone oughta remind the boys at Disney that this mistake was made before in ABC late night. Back when Dick Cavett was opposite Johnny Carson, he put on an award-winning, well-respected show that did a lot to counter the schlock image of so much else the company was then airing. It also finished a respectable second to Johnny and made money. Somehow, this was not enough for the folks then in charge of the alphabet network. They reduced Cavett from every night to one week a month, folding him into a rotating format that included specials and the second coming of Jack Paar. They called it ABC's Wide World of Entertainment but they might as well have named it The Golden Goose because they slaughtered a profitable enterprise and wound up with bupkis. Paar bombed, Cavett was destroyed, the specials flopped. Their whole late night franchise collapsed and for years they derived neither cash nor prestige after 11:30 until, at long last, they garnered some of each by handing the time slot over to — wait for it — Ted Koppel.
History will not repeat itself precisely, especially if Letterman does go to ABC. He'd probably do as well there as he has on CBS, especially if CBS doesn't come up with a strong replacement. (The primary benefit to his ratings would not come from demographics or lead-ins. It would come from the elimination of Nightline. I don't think Letterman would even be considering the move if he thought CBS had a promising option for his slot.) But the more likely scenario is that he'll stay where he is and the whole negotiation will merely have forced ABC to frag Koppel and Maher before they were ready. That strikes me as a lot dumber than anything surrounding the sturm und drang of who'd get to sit behind Johnny's desk.
Blogkeeping
As I write this, we are an hour or so from going over 100,000 distinct hits since this website went up. I still don't know quite how this is tallied. If you log in twice in the same day, you're still one hit. And of course, if you stay here for hours reading things, you're one hit but if you surf through and leave in two seconds because there's no porn, you're one hit. Whatever, it's nice that we have an audience and I thank those of you who've visited and helped publicize this silly, non-profitable concern. I'll be putting up more content beyond this page in a week or three when I get past some flaming deadlines. Bye now.
Late Thursday Afternoon
Two quickies, then I have to get back to the deadlines and social obligations I mentioned in the previous post…
My cousin David has an article in today's New York Times about his strange relationship with his psychiatrist. Click here to read a nice piece by the other writing Evanier.
And thanks to all of you who sent birthday greetings and I'm sorry I haven't had time to respond. Yes, yesterday I hit the big five-oh and, no, it didn't bother me one bit. I long ago decided that it wasn't me; that the entire world is now going through a mid-life crisis.
Back to stuff.
Late Night News
Spoke today to a couple of folks who are in and around the Late Night Teevee Biz. They reinforced a lot of what was said in the previous item, and the consensus seems to be that a Letterman move to ABC is a longshot. This evening on The Newshour With Jim Lehrer, Bill Carter himself only pegged the likelihood at around 20% — which makes one wonder if the story even deserved the prominence it was given. One person who seems to have inside info gave me a likely-sounding theory to answer my question, "Why is this in the paper?" The theory is that Letterman's people were worried that it would leak in the form of, "Dave — who once tried his damnedest to get Jay Leno fired — is now going after Ted Koppel."
By releasing the story as they did, they made certain it included the spin that ABC is considering the dumping of Koppel anyway…which is "sorta" true but is apparently far from a done deal. My source says ABC would be a lot happier if Mr. Koppel took fewer evenings off and if Nightline did more to woo younger viewers. If he won't do either, and if a real good alternative presents itself, Nightline would probably be history, at least in its present form and time slot.
But it's not a goner because, among other reasons, that real good alternative ain't there. Nightline has been getting around the same ratings as Letterman, though with a less desirable demographic. That's not great for ABC but the show is by no means a disaster, and claims that it and Politically Incorrect are losing millions are probably grossly exaggerated. Both would have been axed long ago if that were literally true, as their ratings have not notably declined the last few years, nor have they become markedly more expensive. (P.I. has a separate, unrelated set of problems. Some affiliates don't like its contents or feel it belongs on their network.)
Today, some message boards are erupting with suggestions that Jon Stewart* or some other prominent comedian will get the 11:35 slot on ABC or CBS — wherever Letterman doesn't wind up. In truth, it's not that simple. You don't cancel a show like Nightline — with 4.5 million viewers — until you've got a replacement that you're reasonably confident will draw at least that many. At the moment, of all the conceivable contenders, Letterman is the only one with any track record in that time slot. Jon Stewart might do as well…but I doubt anyone in the TV biz, including Mr. Stewart, would bet their condos on that if they could avoid it. For the same reason, CBS will probably settle with Dave…who can't be all that eager to uproot a secure show that has been slowly gaining in the ratings and move it to alien turf and its inevitable uncertainties.
To answer a couple of questions…
One correspondent wrote to ask, "If Letterman does wind up at ABC, wouldn't Koppel just take Nightline to CBS?" Nope. First off, Koppel might go elsewhere but he doesn't own the show. Secondly, CBS has launched its first-ever successful entertainment franchise in that slot and isn't about to abandon that. Thirdly, if they did want a news show in that position, it would be a major slap in the face of the CBS News Division to fish one out of a competitor's wastebasket.
Another asked if being on ABC at 11:35 was that much of a ratings benefit over being on CBS? Answer: No, not all that much. Yes, ABC currently has stronger lead-ins but that could change rapidly…and anyway, during part of the year, Monday Night Football bumps the 11:35 show into a non-competitive position in many markets, one night a week. Letterman would have to come up with a new studio from which to broadcast (he'd almost certainly stay in New York) and move his offices and figure out what he wants to have follow him at 12:35, et cetera, et cetera. It's a helluva lot of work and risk for what might be a slight advantage…and might not.
I've gotta run but first, this footnote:
* I think Jon Stewart is one of the most brilliant host-type comedians working today. I'm off now to attend a tribute to The Daily Show at the Museum of Television and Radio. If I get a chance, I'll post a report here later about the event and what, if anything, is said about the above. Bye!
An Evening With Jon
And a lovely, laugh-filled evening it was tonight as the Museum of Television and Radio saluted The Daily Show With Jon Stewart. Present were Mr. Stewart, writer Ben Karlin, producer Madeleine Smithberg and correspondents Steve Carrell and Stephen Colbert. A very funny reel of clips was shown and then the panel took questions…although Jon Stewart seemed intent on responding to each one without actually addressing it. Among the few things of substance he said were that he thought the controversial comments that got Bill Maher in trouble were "asinine" and that he [Stewart] thought it was ridiculous for anyone in America to claim that their viewpoints were being suppressed. Later, asked if he might someday run for public office, Stewart replied, "Hey, there are photos out there of me with my dick in bean dip." (Dr. Robert Batscha, the somewhat serious President of the M.T.&R. who moderated the event, promptly informed the audience, "We have them at the museum.")
My guess is that most of those in attendance came away impressed at the lightning-cleverness of Stewart — and everyone on the dais, for that matter — but with next-to-no insight on how The Daily Show gets done.
On the subject of Letterman and Koppel, Stewart would only say that he doubted ABC would let Koppel get away, and that he found it ridiculous that such a trivial story was on Page One of The New York Times. Asked by an audience member if he'd jump back into late night if a network backed up a Brinks Truck of cash, Stewart shrugged and said, "I'm only human," but didn't seem particularly interested in changing jobs. Granted, a tribute to the show you're doing is hardly the place to indicate a desire to move up to ostensibly better things, but Stewart sure didn't act like he expects that to happen.
Personal Matter
Unless something big happens, we probably won't be updating this website for a few days. I have a long list of deadlines and social obligations that need to be met. And if I owe you an e-mail — and I probably do — please be patient.
Dave on ABC?
So already I'm getting e-mail asking what I think is up with the news that ABC is (a) ready to dump Nightline and maybe Politically Incorrect and (b) offering David Letterman a rajah's ransom to make the leap. The story was broken this morn in The New York Times by Bill Carter and if you didn't read it, here's a link to the piece. I haven't spoken yet to anyone with inside info but I think we can deduce a few things by asking the simple question, "Why is this in the paper?" The fact that Mr. Carter got a lot more than denials and "No comment" means that the story was leaked — presumably by Letterman's people. The obvious motive would be to put pressure on CBS, where negotiations for his contract renewal are probably not giving him what he wants…yet.
To me, the most interesting question is what could be a deal point that would drive Dave to ABC? Could it be money? Probably not. There's no reason CBS couldn't match whatever ABC would pay. Could it be less network interference? Again, probably not. The Carter article notes that Letterman has had his differences with Les Moonves at CBS…but Dave's been in the biz long enough to know that network vice-presidents have short life-spans, and that you don't sign a long-term contract because you like this week's execs at one company more than this week's execs at another. Besides, Letterman already has almost total control of his show, and CBS wouldn't lose a major profit center over the few matters that may be at issue.
Could it be, as Carter seems to suggest, that Letterman thinks the ABC demographics and lead-ins would make him more competitive? The difference isn't all that enormous; not enough to warrant all the tumult that a switch would involve, including some inevitable staff shake-ups, probable loss of the Ed Sullivan Theater and cutting Craig Kilborn's show adrift…to say nothing of the sheer uncertainty of beating whoever his successor on CBS turned out to be. Besides, if we wind up with three entertainment-oriented talk shows in that slot, carving the audience three ways instead of two, someone is liable to get hurt and that someone could be Letterman. It could be real embarrassing to make the switch and not get higher numbers, either because of increased competition or because the network itself didn't matter all that much. One might also recall that right after Dave migrated to CBS, its demographics and lead-ins changed dramatically. No one can say it won't happen again.
No, my guess is that CBS and Letterman were simply at an impasse over all the usual issues (money, control, promotion) and that the network wasn't taking seriously the fact that Dave had an allegedly-solid offer from ABC. Releasing this story, as they have, makes the threat more real and turns up the heat on CBS to cave…as they probably will. Carter's article would read a lot different if Letterman really wanted to go or CBS didn't want to keep him, and both have plenty to lose in a divorce and not all that much to gain. It might happen but it would have to be over something petty and personal, as opposed to something that made sense for either side. On the other hand, a lot of what went on the last time Letterman switched networks was petty and personal…from all sides.
So where does that leave Ted Koppel? Carter's sources at ABC probably said what they said because that network's cooling to the whole idea of Nightline. With the rise of Fox News, MSNBC, CNN (et al), that show doesn't make as much sense as it once did. It was created, let's remember, during the 70's hostage crisis and when it's dipped in ratings since then, folks at ABC have usually figured that it would rise and fall as major news stories dominated the news. That hasn't happened. The 9/11 terrorism was as big a story as anyone could imagine and it only bolstered Nightline's numbers for a little while, and not by all that much. Its survival may have a lot to do with whether Koppel, who's been absent a lot lately, makes a renewed commitment to it. If they snare Letterman, it'll probably be axed or moved to another time slot where it can quietly fade from view. If they don't snare Letterman, then it'll probably endure until a terrific candidate emerges who can go head-to-head with Dave and Jay. No names stick out at the moment but eventually, one will.
And where does this leave Bill Maher? The replacement of Nightline would probably mean his exit from ABC, if only because whatever went there would almost certainly be an hour and Maher wouldn't (or shouldn't) stand for being bumped to 12:35. If Dave's the replacement, he'll want his own, hand-picked, owned-by-Worldwide-Pants lead-out, anyway. Still, in spite of what's implied in the Carter piece, Politically Incorrect is probably quite profitable, at least when advertisers aren't defecting. It wouldn't surprise me if Maher turned into the big winner in all this, with Fox and various cable channels climbing over one another to lock him up. The show doesn't cost a lot to produce and some of those other venues are a lot more comfy with controversy than the Disney-owned ABC.
In any case, it's nice to have a new Late Night War in the news. But remember this about Late Night Wars: They make great copy and a lot of feelings get hurt…but in the long run, most of the key players survive and everyone involved goes home with a lot more money than when they started. It's just like Wrestlemania except that nobody gets hit over the head with a folding chair. Or, at least, they haven't yet.
Recommended Reading
And check out: Joshua Micah Marshall's explanation of "astroturf" political campaigning…not to be confused with genuine "grass roots" campaigning.
Recommended Reading
We highly recommend Michael Kinsley's column today on Slate and in various newspapers. And stick with it until the end.
Book Marx
Above is the cover to what I think is the only Marx Brothers-related book that is not present in my library. It's a paperback that was published in England in 1946 to tie in with the release of one of their weaker features. This and other Marxian rarities can be viewed over at the Marx-Out-of-Print Page, which is chock-full of hard-to-find writings about the brothers. They have a mess of them, including a couple of eminently non-vital articles that I wrote for bad money in the seventies. Vastly more interesting are things like a repro of an issue of Life with photos of Harpo and his friends. There's a picture there of George S. Kaufman in a hammock that I think is the only time I've ever seen him in a pose that could be described as "casual." Anyway, if you're interested in the Brothers Marx, hustle over to that website and browse around for a while. It's not often I see Groucho/Harpo/Chico stuff I've never seen before so there's probably something there that'll be new to you.
Groo Does What He Does Best!
The first three comic book companies that published Groo went bankrupt and one of them experienced a flood that wiped out their offices. The fourth has had some legal messiness while the fifth and current American publisher (Dark Horse) is still oddly functioning and healthy. This has disappointed some folks who cottoned to the notion that the book was some sort of publishing jinx. Such people will be gratified to know that The Malaysian Sun — a newspaper that was reprinting Groo in, you guessed it, Malaysia — just announced that it was floundering and would be laying off two-thirds of its staff. We're all so proud.
Short Stuff
The Museum of Television and Radio in Los Angeles is having its annual William S. Paley Festival — two weeks during which they "salute" TV shows with special evenings featuring clips and special guests. Years ago when I started attending these, they were all about Your Show of Shows and M*A*S*H and other shows that were ranked as undeniable classics. More recently, someone at the museum seems to have decided that withstanding any test of time greater than about eight weeks is asking too much. This time, they're saluting The Bernie Mac Show, Curb Your Enthusiasm and several others that seem a tad too recent for any kind of historical overview. (A notable exception: March 6, they're covering the TV work of Fred Allen.) Tonight's seminar was devoted to Martin Short, a spotlight which might strike some as a bit premature.
But if someone thought that, the lengthy package of clips that opened the evening would have convinced them it was well warranted. It commenced with a 1976 clip for an obscure Canadian variety show, jumped to The Associates, then to SCTV and Saturday Night Live. This was all followed by several specials, TV-movies and short-lived series, wrapping up with the current Primetime Glick. Throughout, one saw Mr. Short in a stunning array of very funny characters. You forget how much he's done and how good most of it has been.
The clips were followed by a chat with Short, including questions from the audience. He probably struck everyone present — the place was packed — as very funny, surprisingly modest and uncommonly in-touch with whatever reality exists in show business. At one point, asked about what it's like to hang out with the likes of Steve Martin and the SCTV alumni, he replied, "When we're all together, it's just like it is when you're with your friends, except that my friends are incredibly wealthy." He declined to speak ill of anyone, despite a few attempts by audience members to extract such tales. (The gent sitting in front of me identified himself as the father of a recent Saturday Night Live cast member and seemed eager for negative stories about Lorne Michaels. Short said simply that he had none.) Having seen a few folks at past M.T.&R. seminars go on and on about angst and turmoil and idiots at the network, it was somehow refreshing to listen to someone who's pretty — but not insufferably — happy with what he's done and how he did it.
One other quotable thing: Short was asked about all the rumors that he was going to play the Leo Bloom role in the musical of The Producers. He said there had been talk but that he'd never received an offer.
The William S. Paley Festival continues through March 12 with events held up at the Directors Guild Theater on Sunset Boulevard. Many of the evenings are sold out but tickets are available for some. The whole schedule can be found over at www.mtr.org.
Harris Online
The interview I did with Paul Harris on his peachy radio show is now on-line if anyone wants to hear it. It's just us chatting about Chuck Jones for 15 or 20 minutes and here's a link to the page where you can hear it, assuming you have RealAudio installed. To be honest with you, while I was over at www.HarrisOnline.com hooking up that link, I found a lot of interviews with other folks that were a lot more interesting, including one with Gabe Kaplan about how Groucho Marx almost appeared on Welcome Back, Kotter. The stories he tells are basically true, although I don't think Groucho ever came to any of the dinner breaks on the show. If he had, he'd have died a year earlier. Gabe, however, forgets about the time Groucho did come to appear on a taping and wasn't up to a performance, as detailed in the second half of a two-part article posted here and here. I also enjoyed the conversations I listened to with Mac King, Bob Newhart, Leonard Maltin and a few others. Paul's a first-rate interviewer.